Five Weeks in the Former Yugoslovia

Old May 19th, 2019, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rialtogrl View Post
There is so much water in Plitvice at the moment... I saw some video of the above scene that yestravel posted, and it was craaaaaaazy.... they closed the park except for the upper path one day last week, so ticket holders either got a 10 minute walk with a view or a refund. And there is still a lot of rain in the forecast. Even in Dalmatia.
The upper lakes were closed. Only A&B weíre open with the boats just starting Saturday to run again. I wondered if they gave refunds when we debated about going or not. It was gorgeous esp with falls being so full. Weíve had pretty lousy weather for most of 3 weeks. And it doesnít look to be improving. 😫
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yestravel- Hope your weather improves, we will also be stopping overnight in Plitvice, so again, thanks.

I had been kinda dreading the home visit, figured it would be a scripted sort of thing, but instead a very real history lesson. The one son, in his late 30's, translated old books into various languages, taught middle school, and was fascinating.

Hope you don't mind, not to detract from your story, but here are some Vukovar pictures.




The space under the brick, with the concrete border? Those were the restaurant windows.



This nearby mural was striking. I have tried to figure out the words, but haven't been able to. Universal image, too common.

Other areas of Vukovar are patched up, but there were still many buildings showing battle scars.
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Yestravel, thank you for asking about my surgery. I had my hip replaced last week and I am home recuperating. Surgery was successful and I am all set to travel in September. Your photo of Plitvice is amazing! I purchased our tickets online the other day, and I did purchase the tickets for Entrance 2. Yes, we are staying at Plitvice Miric Inn. Supposedly there are only 150 tickets left for the time slot I chose on our date in September, so I thought I should order them now. I purchased the 2-day tickets. I have a confirmation but I don't have a voucher. Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought I was supposed to receive a voucher by email, and then turn that voucher in at the park for the actual tickets. Did you get a voucher before you left home? I am sorry to hear you have not had better weather, but you have the right attitude and you are obviously enjoying yourselves. I hope the weather improves!

bdokeefe, your photos are amazing, sad and very touching!
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[QUOTE=KarenWoo;16921800]. Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought I was supposed to receive a voucher by email, and then turn that voucher in at the park for the actual tickets. Did you get a voucher before you left home?

Yes, you will get a voucher. If you havenít gotten one in a few days get back in touch with them. I had to make a change and found them very responsive. You must print off your vouchers. As you said, you take the vouchers to an office and get your ticket. Then you go with your ticket to the park entrance. Itís not a very effficient system and I bet they modify it as time goes by.
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. Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought I was supposed to receive a voucher by email, and then turn that voucher in at the park for the actual tickets. Did you get a voucher before you left home?

Yes, you will get a voucher. If you havenít gotten one in a few days get back in touch with them. I had to make a change and found them very responsive. You must print off your vouchers. As you said, you take the vouchers to an office and get your ticket. Then you go with your ticket to the park entrance. Itís not a very effficient system and I bet they modify it as time goes by.
Thank you! I will make a note to email them in a few days if I haven't received the voucher. Also wanted to add that I am surprised Plitvice was so crowded by 11AM in May. I assume September will be more crowded (since it's shoulder season), but hopefully maybe the weather will be better.
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bdokeefe [#62]. Those photos reminded me of many, many similar scenes in Bosnia & Herzegovina. Buildings in Mostar and Sarajevo which have been left pretty much as they were after being pulverised.

I stayed in a very nice penthouse apartment in Sarajevo last year. It was situated on 'Sniper Alley' close to the Holiday Inn and USA Embassy. From the outside the building was a complete shambles, shell and small arms damage all over the place.

Sarajevo is a really moving city to visit. It must have been Hell on Earth during the Serbian siege...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sarajevo
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Old May 19th, 2019, 10:20 AM
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yestravel - I have a memory of going to Plitvic on a day trip organised by our package tour company, but it goes no further than the name, so thanks for posting those fantastic pictures. Ironically it wouldn't have been so spectacular if it hadn't rained so much recently!

bdokeefe - What interesting and moving photos! And such sad stories to tell I'm sure. In fact It looks like there is plenty to see and do in that area so it really deserves its own thread, especially as the OPs haven't actually been there. Perhaps start a thread of your own on that area?
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I purchased our tickets online the other day, and I did purchase the tickets for Entrance 2. Yes, we are staying at Plitvice Miric Inn. Supposedly there are only 150 tickets left for the time slot I chose on our date in September, so I thought I should order them now. I purchased the 2-day tickets. I have a confirmation but I don't have a voucher. Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought I was supposed to receive a voucher by email, and then turn that voucher in at the park for the actual tickets. Did you get a voucher before you left home?
Karen, did you receive your email with your receipt? I just ordered mine today and received an immediate email with the receipt, confirmation and voucher - three attachments.

Alas, I noticed that I inadvertently purchased for entrance 1 (staying near 2). Dang it.
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Alas, I noticed that I inadvertently purchased for entrance 1 (staying near 2). Dang it.
Entrance 1 is only a 5 minute drive up the road from Entrance 2. If it really matters to you, they were very good about exchanges. I made 2 changes with no problems.
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Thanks yestravel, may consider it. I have been before, 4 years ago and seemed to recall that the entrances weren't too far apart.

Last week I read there was quite a bit of flooding in the region, especially Croatia and Bosnia. Have you seen any effects yourselves?
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Last week I read there was quite a bit of flooding in the region, especially Croatia and Bosnia. Have you seen any effects yourselves?
Weather overall has not been great-we have missed the flooding, but have had a ton of rain everywhere. Itís pouring right now in Split. We saw footage of the floods and damage in Zagreb and it looked awful. Women at our pension in Plitvice said it had rained heavy almost everyday for weeks and flooding was very bad that many had lost their homes. The falls were even more spectacular due to all the rain,
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Karen, did you receive your email with your receipt? I just ordered mine today and received an immediate email with the receipt, confirmation and voucher - three attachments.

Alas, I noticed that I inadvertently purchased for entrance 1 (staying near 2). Dang it.
Travelnerd,
The only email I received is from WSPay, the online authorization and payment site. I did not receive anything from Plitvice. So I just emailed Plitvice, and hopefully I will hear from them soon. The confirmation I have is from Plitvice's online ticket order site. It gives my payment information, my order information, etc. I will let you know when I hear from them. I am surprised you received an immediate email from Plitvice and I did not. Thank you for letting me know.
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Weather overall has not been great-we have missed the flooding, but have had a ton of rain everywhere. Itís pouring right now in Split. We saw footage of the floods and damage in Zagreb and it looked awful. Women at our pension in Plitvice said it had rained heavy almost everyday for weeks and flooding was very bad that many had lost their homes. The falls were even more spectacular due to all the rain,
Yestravel, I am so sorry to hear about all the rain you have encountered on your trip. Was it raining the day you went to Plitvice? If so, is it dangerous/slippery to be walking on the boardwalks? Because Split is further south, I assumed you would have better weather there. I hope your weather improves, and I hope we have better weather in September. We have been to France many times in April/May, and last year we were in Lisbon in April, and we have always had gorgeous weather during these months. So when I originally planned our trip for April/May, I assumed it would be nice. I know you can never predict the weather! Here at home in Massachusetts we have also had a very rainy and cold spring. Very little sun. And we are still using our heat!
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It's been, overall, a cold, rainy, dreary spring here in the Dordogne. Today is the first day of (partial) sunlight in almost a week (and it's going to rain this afternoon and tomorrow). We still have a big fire in the fireplace every night (overnight temps are still often under 5C). Weather reports from all over Europe have been pretty depressing for weeks now.
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KAREN- yes, it was very wet and could easily be slippery. Some of the areas were slightly flooded. Be sure to wear proper footwear. You can also choose where you walk so you can select a shorter trail that might expose you to less water.

Stcirq- weather is weird everywhere. I’ve heard DC is already in the 90’s!

onto our next chapter in our TR

In Search of Sunshine

Tire resuscitated, we began our drive to Piran on the miniature Slovenian coast. (Slovenia has about twenty five miles of coastline on the Adriatic between Italy and Croatia.) Our review of weather sites indicated that our best chance of sunshine was there. The weather outlook looked bleak for much of our three hour drive; it was in near constant rain that alternated between downpour and mists. Miraculously, as we drove into the outskirts of Piran around 1:00 p.m., the rain disappeared. We arrived in sunshine.

Piran is a very Italian feeling town spread around a small harbor. Automobile traffic is largely banned for both residents and non-residents. We drove into town on a temporary pass. Our on-line research had identified a couple of likely hotels. I waited in the car in an alley by an ice cream parlor while YT went into the Art Hotel Tartini, the first of our candidates. She was shown a high floor room and was so taken by the combination of view and sunshine that she immediately booked the room. I, in the meantime, was being nagged by the staff of the ice cream parlor. She eventually returned, we moved our luggage into the lobby, then I departed for the immense municipal parking garage on the outskirts of town. I walked the kilometer back to town.

Once there, YT and I bought ice cream cones at the parlor to make amends for my park-and-wait crime. After walking around town in the sunshine, we were so taken that we adjusted our schedule, cancelling our first night in Lake Bled - rain was in the forecast - and adding an additional night to our stay in Piran. We spent the next day and half exploring the wonderful town. There are no specific sights other than great sunsets, Tartini Square, Saint George’s Church & bell tower, a Franciscan church & monastery, some miscellaneous Venetian architecture - and a photogenic labyrinth of narrow Italian streets. We also had our first truly memorable meal of the trip, our first night out in Restaurant Neptun. We loved this cozy little dive with its fishing net ceiling, colorful art and friendly staff. Our smoked salmon appetizer and grilled shrimp (YT) and grilled calamari (GT) entrees were superb. The wine recommendation was perfect. Recommended and commended - I wish we’d gone back our second night. We also recommend the Art Hotel Tartini and its bright rooms, helpful staff and great location.

It was with a tinge of regret that we took the free parking shuttle to the municipal garage, drove into town to load our car and set off early for Lake Bled. Our two days of sunshine had been what we needed. And rain was forecast for later that day at our next destination.




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KAREN- yes, it was very wet and could easily be slippery. Some of the areas were slightly flooded. Be sure to wear proper footwear. You can also choose where you walk so you can select a shorter trail that might expose you to less water.
Jumping in on this subject - it was similar when we were there (although the upper trails were open but very waterlogged). My husband Richard would have been happier having a walking stick with him.



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Jumping in on this subject - it was similar when we were there (although the upper trails were open but very waterlogged). My husband Richard would have been happier having a walking stick with him.
Yep, I agree, a walking stick would be very useful.

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Glad you were able to finally get some sunshine. The sunset looks beautiful.

BTW, I love how Fodorís is connecting us the way it is. I am reading about your travels in Slovenia and Croatia while on the road myself in Georgia.
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Glad you were able to finally get some sunshine. The sunset looks beautiful.

BTW, I love how Fodor’s is connecting us the way it is. I am reading about your travels in Slovenia and Croatia while on the road myself in Georgia.
The weather has been weird cloudy quite a bit, then raining and some sun now and then.
Yes, it’s very cool to connect with people as they travel. I’ll be interested to hear about your travels.
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