Go Back  Fodor's Travel Talk Forums > Destinations > Europe
Reload this Page >

First visit to Europe - Itenerary suggestions reqd. and queries

Search

First visit to Europe - Itenerary suggestions reqd. and queries

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 03:59 AM
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
First visit to Europe - Itenerary suggestions reqd. and queries

We are a family of 5, myself and wife,2 kids (aged 2+ and 8+) and mother. After going through this excellant forums,(specially http://www.fromhometoroam.com/2012/0...hemia-bretzen/)
came up with this itenerary. Would appreicate your thoughs and advise.

1. Flying into Prague and stay there for 3 nights
2. Travel to Cesky Krmulov and stay there for 2 nights
3. Travel to Salzburg and stay there for 3 nights
4. Travel to Munich and stay there for 1 night
5. Travel to Berlin and stay 2 nights
6. Travel to Dresden and stay 2 nights
7. Travel to Prague and stay 1 night
8. Fly out from Prague.

Need advise on the following
a. Is 3 nights in Prague is sufficient for visiting must see places
b. What is the best option to travel to Ceshky Krumlove from Prague (Train/Drive)
c. How do we go to Salzburg from Cesky Krumlov and where should we stay
d. Is the German part of my Itenerary make any sense. would appreciate better suggestions and place of stay.

Thanks
vjose is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 08:45 AM
  #2  
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I can only supply a little help. Berlin is a fantastic city to visit, the walking tour is really good but unfortunately too long for small children (over two hours). I stayed in this hotel about 7 years ago: www.hotel-johann-berlin.de/, at the time I was extremely happy with it. It is in the old eastern part of the city and within walking distance of the city centre. Check reviews on sites like booking.com & trip advisor and then make your decision.
I loved Salzburg but can't remember where I stayed but if I can find out I will let you know, as it was genuinely in the old Austrian style. At the time (some time ago) I remember seeing men playing chess with a giant chess set in the main square, which possibly the children would enjoy! You could also climb up Moncksberg there, the ruins of old monastery are at the top. Mozart's birth place in the city you could visit but it is just a small room upstairs in a house in the city centre. I do remember that the wurst (hot dogs with saeurkraut) from the street stalls in Salzburg were particularly good.
I have been to Munich but not since the eighties and in a camper van and don't remember much about it except noticing how good the cycle lanes were. Unfortunately I have not visited the other cities yet!
condiments is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 08:51 AM
  #3  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 22,984
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I do not know the specific geography concerning Prague, but I find that staying in a large city for the last night is not necessarily the most convenient way of traveling. This year we stayed outside Nice and dropped off the car at the Nice airport on our way home. A small town outside Prague might be an easier stop than driving into the city, parking, getting the luggage to the hotel, etc. This is assuming that you can drop off the car (you are traveling by car?) at the airport.
Michael is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 09:19 AM
  #4  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 22,984
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Munich is a bigger city than Salzburg and needs more time than you give it.
Michael is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 09:25 AM
  #5  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 17,471
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
If possible, perhaps a much better use of your time, is to fly into Berlin and out of Munich. It's a very busy itenerary with children and your mother, but consider.

So, Berlin [2.

Dresden [2]

Prague [3]

Chesky Krumlov [2]

Salzburg [3]

And Munich [1]

On this site you will find some of the cities with good information. www.inyourpocket.com
iris1745 is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 09:29 AM
  #6  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 17,471
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Agree with Michael; That last night that you had one night in Prague, you could add to Munich. So, Munich [2].
iris1745 is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 09:31 AM
  #7  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 11,212
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I feel you have too many places in 2 weeks. You will be spending a lot of time in transit from place to place and packing/unpacking. It takes time to acclimate yourself to a new city.

I would not break up your stay in Prague. Visit Prague at the end of the trip so you're in the city you're flying home from. Arrive in Prague and immediately leave for your first destination.

2 nights in Berlin is only 1 day. It's too far to travel and offers so much to see that 1 day will cover very little.

You'll only have the afternoon in Munich and then have to leave for Berlin.

You need to consider your children and how they will feel being dragged from one place to another and always waking up in a new hotel.

You've referenced someone else's trip but did you notice that they stayed in each place much longer than you're planning to do and did not go to as many places. And, they did not have young children with them.
adrienne is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 09:43 AM
  #8  
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 57,890
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A couple of notes:

You are wasting time by flying in and out of Prague - fly open jaws into your first city and fly home from the last - it won't cost any more. You need more time in Berlin and Munich (which have much more to see than Salzburg - although the latter is a charming town.

If it were my trip I would do it by car - which I think is easier with 2 small kids - less tied to schedules of public transit and can stop and let them run around somewhere when they get antsy. It may cost more - and there will probably be a drop-off charge, but IMHO the extra cost is worth it.

You don;t say when you are going - and I hope it isn;t soon - or you will have lots of trouble with accommodations. With 5 people an apartment may meet your needs better than 2 hotel rooms - but typically you need to reserve far in advance and many require a specific number of nights.

Overall, with 2 little kids I would try to simplify the trip - and make sure some of the places you stay are near parks/ playgrounds.
nytraveler is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 10:08 AM
  #9  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 17,471
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Actually, you could travel by car and perhaps for less money. If you consider the itenerary I suggested, hire a car when leaving Berlin. Drop the car off in Munich, no drop off fee.

I have driven in all the cities except Dresden and it is doable as the 'nytraveler' suggested.

You need to look at a map and then plan what is best for you and the family. You can check the distance between cities on this site. viamichelin.com
iris1745 is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 10:12 AM
  #10  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 13,617
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Are there any issues taking a German car into Czech Republic? I know that Austria is fine, but there are restrictions for certain countries.

I do agree with flying open-jaw, adding more time to Munich (with only 1 night, you might as well leave it off completely), and trying to trim something from the itinerary.
november_moon is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 10:32 AM
  #11  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 17,471
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Good point; I have driven those countries in the early 2000's, but I alway check with the actual car company. Ask the question by e-mail and require an answer so that I have back-up information. Never by calling.

Most recent was in 2009, but only renting at the Munich airport, driving into Austria and then back into Germany, eventually returning the car to the Munich airport.
iris1745 is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 10:41 AM
  #12  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Much appreciate.

I have some limitations on my Fly in/Out city. No changes can be made on Prague Arrival/Departure.

I dont mind dropping few of the German destinations especially Berlin and Dresden. (I could Keep that for the next trip).

There is less chance that I would visit Prague any time soon.I would prefer to visit must see places in Prague(dont mind if its towards the end) and I hear Cesky Krumlov is good place too.

Since I would be visiting C.K., I thought I could cover Salzburg/Hallstatt and then cross to Germany- Would visit places close to Munich. Finally I could go back to Prague from Munich either by Train/Flight

It would be very helpfull if any bettersuggestions for apartments/places to visit or order of visit etc. I dont mind revising our itenrary.

Many Thanks
vjose is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 11:04 AM
  #13  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 17,471
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
You have helped solve an itenerary. You could still drive.

Prague [2] Chesky Krumlov [2] Salzburg [3] Passau [2] Regensburg [3] and back to Prague [2] Still a lot of stops. I don't think any of these would be more than a three hour drive.

Pick up a car when leaving Prague and drop it of when returning to Prague. Consider Skipping Berlin, Dresden and Munich.

Still need to look at a map of Europe.
iris1745 is offline  
Old Aug 7th, 2012, 01:21 PM
  #14  
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Definitely keep Cesky Krumlov in your itinerary. I would do Prague 3 nights and not less (especially to accommodate jetlag from arrival). I did 4 nights in Salzburg, which was way too much, and I ended up having too much time on my hands. Plus, the ice caves nearby had just closed for the season when I arrived, so I could not do that to kill time. But with kids, I'm sure you're considering a half day trip to the salt mines, which would be easier than the ice caves (heard there is a lot of walking with the ice caves) If pressed for time, maybe just do two nights in Salzburg. Everyone is different but I enjoyed Salzburg the least out of my visit last year to Prague, CK, Salzburg, Vienna, Budapest.

You can also strongly consider dropping Berlin and keeping that for another trip. Dresden can be combined on this trip with Prague or on a future trip with Berlin. If I had to drop one city out of your current itinerary, I would drop Berlin.
nomadder is offline  
Old Aug 8th, 2012, 04:34 AM
  #15  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thank you iris1745. Do you have any suggestions on places to stay in your reccommendations. I would prefere an apartment /B&B.

nomadder, Most of the people were suggesting 1 day in CK. Do you have any suggestions/links for places to stay in CK & SalZburg.

I want to visit/stay in Hallstatt for a day.but no idea where to stay or worth the hassle or should I do a day trip from Salzbug.

Quite confused with German side of places to visit and getting back to Prague for our departure.
vjose is offline  
Old Aug 8th, 2012, 05:15 AM
  #16  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Anybody knows how good is this place is NATIONAL THEATRE APARTMENTS Ostrovni 7, Prague 1 - Nove Mesto, The Czech Republic. 120 Euro per room/night

http://www.prague-city-apartments.cz...PARTMENTS.html
vjose is offline  
Old Aug 8th, 2012, 04:04 PM
  #17  
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
In Cesky Krumlov, I stayed on the outskirts of the town at Pension Amadeus, which is an easy 5 minute walk to the town square. I would stay there again. I was there as a solo traveler, so I am not familiar with their larger room options.

http://www.penzionamadeus.cz/indexa.htm

I stayed in CK for two nights, which is a very leisurely stay. One night is doable but would be too much of a rush in my opinion when taking in travel time. CK is a place where it is nice to be leisurely, stroll the cobblestone streets, explore the castle and the beautiful views. There is a marionette museum if you are into that, but it is just a bunch of hanging marionettes and not much else as far as detailed explanations of marionette making, etc. Maybe stay two nights and leave early the next day to Salzburg. I took one of the coach services to Salzburg and it was about a 3 hour drive if I remember correctly, but we stopped in Linz to drop a couple off.

In Salzburg, I stayed at: http://www.weissetaube.at/en

It was a decent price compared to other places and a nice, cordial family-run hotel. I would consider staying there again if it was the best-priced hotel I could find. Easy walking distance to major sites. Nothing fancy but nice staff. By the way, Salzburg is clean and beautiful but more monotone and for me was anticlimactic after being in the colorful, old town, gothic CK. But it is a completely different type of town and experience. From my research I think Hallstat can be a day trip from Salzburg. I did not end up going there so cannot speak from experience.
nomadder is offline  
Old Aug 9th, 2012, 01:42 PM
  #18  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
nomadder many thanks.Looking forward to visit CK.

yes planning for day trip to HallStatt.

Bad luck your suggested places were full too.
vjose is offline  
Old Aug 9th, 2012, 01:57 PM
  #19  
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would suggest less time in Salzburg and more time in Munich from where to take a 1 day tour to the famous nearby castles (http://in-luxembourg.blogspot.de/201...s-germany.html).

Travelling by car is the best choice from both time and money point of view(you get the economies of scale of a large group)
olivieretcerise is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Original Poster
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Hilmel
Europe
6
Aug 13th, 2015 07:28 PM
jasperdog
Europe
12
Oct 31st, 2012 04:28 AM
kfusto
Europe
17
Jan 5th, 2009 09:00 AM
LSUvetgirl
Europe
11
Dec 7th, 2006 11:11 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -