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tostaky Apr 10th, 2025 02:37 PM

Final itinerary central Europe.
 
we (2 adults, one 13 years old and one 17 years old) will do a 35 nights trip (july 2 to august 6) around Central Europe.

After reading blogs, travel guide we made some tough choices. What do you think abouth that itinerary ? Anything we miss ? any obvious mistake ?



Thanks in advance


Arrival in Vienna ( 4 nights)


Take rental car in Vienna Airport , head to Banska Stiavnica ( 1 night)


Leave Banska Stiavnica, stop Bojnice castle, and Cicmany. one night stop in Zilina.


Head to Tatras (stop in Orava castle and Vlkolinec. Poprad (our base for Tatras, Spiss and Levoca. 4 nights)


Krakow (4 nights). Auschwitz and Wieliczka salt mine


Leave Krakow, stop in Bardejov, Head to Kosice (2 nights)


Leave Kosice, Tokaj (Hungary), Eger (2 night)


Budapest (5 nights) . Daytrips to Szentendre and Esztergom, Visegrad


Györ (1 night) Stop for the Pannonhalma abbey


Graz (2 nights)


Zell Am See (2 nights). If weather is good we would do the Grossglockner road (from and back to Zell am See)


Bad Aussee (3 nights) For the Salzkagermmut region


Krems (2 nights) Melk, Wachau valley


Head to Bratislava , drop the car (2 nights), no fee for another country drop. Take a bus, head to Vienna airport, fly back home.


What do you think about that ? Any obvious mistake ?

thanks !
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shelemm Apr 10th, 2025 09:32 PM

In Poprad you will be right near Slovak Paradise National Park. You should check out the possibility of hiking there. They have some outrageous-looking hikes. Spissky Hrad, obviously nearby.

On your way to Krakow, you will pass through major parts of the Wooden Architecture Trail. I highly recommend stopping in Debno, Poland to see the Parafia sw. Michala Archaniola. It's in a strikingly beautiful setting with polychromatc paintings on the interior. If it is locked when you get there, just ask around for someone to open it.

bilboburgler Apr 10th, 2025 09:48 PM

The camp does not recommend the tour for those under 14. Your discretion.

Zell-am-zee is not that great a target, nice enough valley and probably a glacier is still left.

Tokaj is a tiny village with a massive wine industry based there, if you like the wine you'll be fine.

Eger nice base.

While in Hungary try a few different spas, just so much part of the culture

tostaky Apr 11th, 2025 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by shelemm (Post 17647318)
In Poprad you will be right near Slovak Paradise National Park. You should check out the possibility of hiking there. They have some outrageous-looking hikes. Spissky Hrad, obviously nearby.

On your way to Krakow, you will pass through major parts of the Wooden Architecture Trail. I highly recommend stopping in Debno, Poland to see the Parafia sw. Michala Archaniola. It's in a strikingly beautiful setting with polychromatc paintings on the interior. If it is locked when you get there, just ask around for someone to open it.

We will decide what we will do in Poprad once we are there. Weather will be determining ! Slovak paradise seems nice but theres a lots of ropes and stairs tht could looks frightening for our 13 years old who got some mobility problems.

Thnaks about the idea to stop in Debno, we will look more into that.

tostaky Apr 11th, 2025 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by bilboburgler (Post 17647321)
The camp does not recommend the tour for those under 14. Your discretion.

Zell-am-zee is not that great a target, nice enough valley and probably a glacier is still left.

Tokaj is a tiny village with a massive wine industry based there, if you like the wine you'll be fine.

Eger nice base.

While in Hungary try a few different spas, just so much part of the culture

Thnaks for the answer !

I know that they dont recommend for under 14 years old, but my wife and I have already been there20 years ago so we know what to expect. I also teach history in high school, I guess I will be able to make it right for her.

So you are saying that we could/should avoid Zell am See ? We have a hard time figuring what we could do between Graz and Salzkagermmut region. Grossglockner road seems a must but we have a hard time figuring where we could stay. And if weather is bad the day we are tere we would skip the road....
I think we will skip Tokaj. We like wine but zero alcohol policy on the road defeat the purpose of being there !



fourfortravel Apr 11th, 2025 08:38 AM

First, remember to purchase your vignettes!

I don't know that you'll *need* an overnight in Györ, unless that fits your itinerary.

Near Bad Aussee is Grundlsee, if you're up for a lovely (easy) wander around the lake.

I, too, would pass on Zell am See. Chichy-mhichy and overpriced for the experience.

Are you spending any time in Bratislava? If so, Restaurant Zylinder offers outstanding "Cuisine of the Empire." I was a fan of their Tartare and the Confit Duck.

A detour to Admont for its abbey on your way from Graz to Bad Aussee might be interesting.

tostaky Apr 11th, 2025 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by fourfortravel (Post 17647391)
First, remember to purchase your vignettes!

I don't know that you'll *need* an overnight in Györ, unless that fits your itinerary.

Near Bad Aussee is Grundlsee, if you're up for a lovely (easy) wander around the lake.

I, too, would pass on Zell am See. Chichy-mhichy and overpriced for the experience.

Are you spending any time in Bratislava? If so, Restaurant Zylinder offers outstanding "Cuisine of the Empire." I was a fan of their Tartare and the Confit Duck.

A detour to Admont for its abbey on your way from Graz to Bad Aussee might be interesting.

Thanks !
Yes vignette is on our ''must do list'' !

Gyor is only because we want to leave Budapest, make a stop at Pannonhalma abbey and just have an easy relax evening somewhere. Gyor seems nice enough for that purpose.

We have noted your opinion about Zell am See. We will try to find another option. Do you have any opinion about the Grossclockner road ?

Yes weil have our 2 last night in bratislava. I have taken note about Zylinder.

shelemm Apr 11th, 2025 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by tostaky (Post 17647355)
We will decide what we will do in Poprad once we are there. Weather will be determining ! Slovak paradise seems nice but theres a lots of ropes and stairs tht could looks frightening for our 13 years old who got some mobility problems.

Thnaks about the idea to stop in Debno, we will look more into that.


Yes,it's true that Slovak Paradise may not for be for everyone.... When I was in Slovakia we went to Mala Fatra National Park. There is a cable car (starts near Terchova) that takes you to a ridge, and from there it's a fairly short hike to Chata pod Chlebom, a mountain refuge where they have lodging but also they prepare meals. It was my favorite meal in Slovakia. Very nice scenery that does not look like everywhere else.

shelemm Apr 11th, 2025 10:21 AM

It's been my experience so far that when you tell a car rental company what other countries you plan to enter, they charge you and that includes whatever you need to drive legally in those countries, including the vignettes.

neckervd Apr 11th, 2025 10:34 AM

What about Graz - A2 - Villach - Spittal - Lienz in Osttirol - Grossglockner - Zell am See?

tostaky Apr 11th, 2025 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by neckervd (Post 17647413)
What about Graz - A2 - Villach - Spittal - Lienz in Osttirol - Grossglockner - Zell am See?

could work, but still have to stay in Zell Am See that most of people seems to think that could be skipped

fourfortravel Apr 11th, 2025 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by tostaky (Post 17647399)
Do you have any opinion about the Grossclockner road ?

We were on a different driving tour than yours. Ours started from Lienz (can not speak highly enough of that city!), winding our way north along the Großglockner toward Kufstein, Salzburg and the Salzkammergut. From the Großglockner we detoured to the Krimmler Wasserfälle before carrying on. From my notes I recall enjoying a most exceptional lunch of Backhendl (Austrian Fried Chicken) in Mittersal.

tostaky Apr 13th, 2025 10:18 AM

Hi again !
We have thought about another option. Maybe we could keep our 3 nights in Bad Ausse even if it's not a good base for Salzkammergut, but instead of going to Zell Am see we would stop 2 nights in Carinthia. It's seem a bit less touristy region (which we like). That would mean to drop the Grossglockner road.

neckervd Apr 14th, 2025 02:10 AM

It's easy (and scenic) to go from Villach (Carinthia) via Lienz - Grossglockner - Bruck - Bischofshofen to Bad Aussee, Bad Ischl, St: Wolfgang or wherever you like to go.

tostaky Apr 14th, 2025 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by neckervd (Post 17647848)
It's easy (and scenic) to go from Villach (Carinthia) via Lienz - Grossglockner - Bruck - Bischofshofen to Bad Aussee, Bad Ischl, St: Wolfgang or wherever you like to go.

it could be doable but it would be a long day of driving.

neckervd Apr 14th, 2025 08:24 AM

Yes, but it's not forbidden to spend a night along one of the many Carinthian lakes or at Lienz.

tostaky Apr 14th, 2025 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by neckervd (Post 17647923)
Yes, but it's not forbidden to spend a night along one of the many Carinthian lakes or at Lienz.

we found a nice Airbnb in Bodensdorf beside Ossiacher see. It would be a 5-6 hours drive from there to Bad Ausee


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