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Ferry Schedule from Bellagio to Varenna on Sunday, May 11th

Ferry Schedule from Bellagio to Varenna on Sunday, May 11th

Feb 1st, 2014, 06:01 AM
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Seat61 (www.seat61.com) is a good source of detailed information about train travel in Italy. Might make you more comfortable.

But, be warned, things in Italy don't always go exactly as planned. I've had train journeys interrupted by delays, strikes, breakdowns, maintenance of the tracks, and once, a suicide on the tracks. The more information you have the better you can deal with any problems. (I've also had train journeys that went exactly as planned. And I love riding the trains, watching the scenery stream by.)
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Feb 1st, 2014, 07:22 PM
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>>>Trenord functions more like a commuter train and you buy tickets before you board. Unlike long distance trains, most people seem to be commuters and ticket windows are not bad because the trips are simple purchases. You validate ticket before boarding, just like any other trains. For your trip, Trenord would not be a good choice. <<<

Not exactly. It's more as asps explains, Trenord operates these regional lines (along with the more commuter suburban lines). One advantage to purchasing the Varenna/Milan ticket with Trenord is they let you purchase online 6 months out (10€). Trenitalia's only sells regional train tickets 7 days out. Regional tickets purchased online have a time window (Trenord is 4 hours) from the time you select. You might have longer use time purchasing from a station or store with the Trenitalia logo (those regional tickets used to have several months validity, but may have changed).

>>>When you buy a ticket for a regional/local train, it's just a generic ticket for the journey, no seat, date or time specified. (Though only good for the next 2 months.)<<<<

The last regional tickets I bought from a machine had a time window so beware of possible old info on this thread. Tickets with a time window are considered validated and don't need to be validated track side (they have a date/time when they are good).

Trenord regional lines map.

http://www.trenord.it/media/616783/l...dic2012_a4.pdf

Trenord suburban lines.

http://www.trenord.it/media/725422/s...aggiornato.pdf

If you want to depart from Como for some reason, you have options besides regional trains (EC trains, etc.).

>>>I've read so much about the problems with getting tickets in Varenna that I'm wondering if we could just buy a round trip ticket when we go from Milan Centrale to Varenna.<<<

You could do that or buy at any store with the Trenitalia logo (lots of small convenience type shops or travel/tour shops).

I would not pay Italiarail $5 booking fee for a 10€ ticket. Italiarail is a reseller and adds their own restrictions to tickets.
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Feb 3rd, 2014, 11:24 AM
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Thanks to everyone for the helpful information. I am always amazed that people take time from their busy schedules to help others so willingly. I enjoy doing that from time to time but look forward to having more information to share in the future after I do more traveling!

I now have on my spreadsheet the train schedules from Malpensa to Varenna, and from Varenna to Venice with all of the connections. I like having it handy in case last minute changes are required. It "saved" us once in Zermatt as I was able to suggest a connection that the clerk did not seem aware of!

If we aren't too tired or jetlagged when we arrive in Milan, we are considering taking the train to Como and the hydrofoil or "slow boat" to Bellagio to get a good overview of the southern part of lake Como. We loved riding the boats on various lakes in Switzerland and thought this might be a relaxing introduction to the lake. It will depend on the boat connections since they don't run very frequently and we don't want to have a long wait in Como.

If we do this, is it correct that we would take the train from Malpensa to Saronno to Como Nord Lago? Looking at a map of Como, it appears that this station is close to the docks from which we would catch the hydrofoil or ferry to Bellagio. Does anyone have specific information about making this connection?

Is the scenery from Como to Bellagio "worth" the time and effort of making this extra connection? (I know this is very subjective).

Thanks again!
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Feb 3rd, 2014, 12:29 PM
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Como Nord Lago is the closest train station to the Como boat docks. If you WALK to a boat, this is the closest station. I have taken this route but without luggage. It is flat. You are at the lake level.

Some warnings.
The boat/bus from Como to Bellagio ends about 6pm as you can see on the schedule. If you end up in Como later, you will have to take a taxi through a winding road. You might not like this after a long flight. Another option is if you realize upon landing Malpensa that you might be missing Como-Bellagio boat, you can change the itinerary on the fly to go through Varenna. The car ferry runs until about 10pm. You have schedules. Good for you.

The scenery gets prettier as you get closer to the mid lake. However, a long boat ride has a hypnotic effect on me on arrival day. I don't like hydrofoil unless I am in a hurry. I get canned inside and the windows are all scratched up.
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Feb 3rd, 2014, 01:18 PM
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"a long boat ride has a hypnotic effect on me on arrival day"

Much like a long, slow bus ride. I would be out cold in five minutes. There's absolutely no view on the lower lake that is impacting enough to release the endorphins needed to stay awake and alert. I would avoid the Como-Bellagio idea like the plague.

As for the 1-hour speedboat, the windows are scratched and dull. There's no such thing as a lovely view. There are no outdoor seats. The ride is fast buy very boring.
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Feb 8th, 2014, 01:44 PM
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Thanks for the info on the hydrofoil.
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