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Favorite place for morning espresso or cappucino in Venice

Favorite place for morning espresso or cappucino in Venice

Old Jul 31st, 2012, 12:37 AM
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P.S. Having now checked your apartment's TA reviews from the link on one of your other threads I now know exactly where you are - the Palazzo Mocenigo itself (where Byron stayed)! It looks from my map as though the landside entrance is via one of the wee calles off Salizada San Samuele, so Calle delle Botteghe is very close: there's also a wee deli on SSS itself but we haven't been in - it may just sell stuff packaged for tourists to take home (judging by the window display) but not sure.
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Old Aug 1st, 2012, 08:05 AM
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Now I want to try all of the coffee shops that all of you have mentioned!

I do not know if the apartment will have a coffee or espresso maker; if it does, then I'm sure we'll take advantage of it. We still want to try coffee shops as well. NYC, I look forward to exploring Campo San Luca.

Caroline (and NYC), thank you also for pointing out how close the Rizzo Pane is--I think we will be paying a visit.

And I do recall reading--it must have been in the TA reviews--that the apartment is in the Palazzo Mocenigo and that Byron stayed there--I just wasn't quite sure if that could be true! Especially since my guidebooks do not mention it, but instead talk about the Palazzo Mocenigo in Santa Croce. I guess the Mocenigo family had more than one palazzo in Venice!
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Old Aug 1st, 2012, 09:20 AM
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The Rialto has too many tourists for my taste. I find the scene obnoxious. There are a few old Venetian establishments that should not be missed, and of course the market, but I avoid the area around the Rialto as much as I can.>>

I doubt that the area round the Rialto will be overfull of tourists early in the morning. it certainly wasn't when we got there at about 8am, and we had a perfectly reasonable breakfast in a bar nearby [sorry i can't remember the name]. nor did i find it obnoxious, but perhaps i am not as refined as some people.

My suggestion would be [which has served us well in several apartment stays in Italy in various cities] is to start with the bar/cafe that is closest to your apartment, and work your way out til you find the one that suits you best.
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Old Aug 1st, 2012, 10:35 AM
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annhig,

Thanks, your suggestion makes sense.

And your comment about the Rialto made me realize that one should not necessarily avoid an area just because it may be crowded with tourists. The Tazza D'Oro coffee bar that we love is in one of the most heavily touristed parts of Rome--the area around the Pantheon--but that does not detract from it, in my opinion. And, similar to your experience with the Rialto area, in the early morning we found that there were almost no tourists in that area anyway.
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Old Aug 1st, 2012, 12:27 PM
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RMMR - don't tell certain people here, but we really liked area around the Rialto market. loads of interesting shops as well as the market stalls; we found a very nice butcher who helped us decide what lamb we wanted for our Easter sunday roast, and threw in some rosemary for good measure. then it was off to the market to buy the potatoes [what sort do you want? to boil or to roast?], the salad, and the fruit. all of it wonderfully fresh and luscious.

then it was across the street to the tiny cheese stall [young pecorino or old?] and to the bakery recommended by our landlord. ok, the street leading back to the bridge is a bit tacky, but you can ignore that easily enough.

well worth checking out, even if you don't buy anything. [i defy you to resist buying something!]
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Old Aug 1st, 2012, 12:33 PM
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there is nothing wrong with the area around the rialto but it is so crammed with tourists that you can hardly walk.

try crossing the rialto bridge at noon and you will lose your mind.

like annhig stated there will be few people about at 8 am.

the market starts getting crowded around 10;30.


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Old Aug 1st, 2012, 06:05 PM
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"perhaps i am not as refined as some people"

LOL

"one should not necessarily avoid (the Rialto) just because it may be crowded with tourists"

I love the Rialto bridge, especially late at night or at sunrise. But to me, someone who knows Venice better than the city where I was born, visiting the Rialto (during "awake" hours) is like visiting Times Square. And I would never go to Times Square for a cup of coffee. But I happily attend the theater.

Many tourists love to stay in Times Square. Just like many tourists love to stay, eat, and drink around the Rialto. To each his own.

Just because I openly state my honest travel preferences, does not mean I'm trying to dictate how someone else should travel.
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Old Aug 1st, 2012, 11:47 PM
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*Nowhere* in any of the areas we've discussed is crammed with tourists until about 10. Even now it is still a pleasure to go shopping & even get the no. 1 vapaoretto between 9 & 10.

I was reminded yesterday - not just Byron but also Brad & Angelina We went past last night on the way back from the Lido and the lights were on in 'your' apartment
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Old Aug 3rd, 2012, 10:06 AM
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Caroline,

Thank you for checking on "our" apartment! That makes it seem more real!

I just googled Brangelina and Palazzo Mocenigo--it seems they stayed on the piano nobile (of course!) of the palazzo, with 5 bedrooms, and marble and Murano chandeliers everywhere--not our ground-floor rental. It sounds like perhaps their nanny or other members of their entourage may have stayed in our apartment. The blurb I read mentioned that the palazzo also included a separate mezzanine apartment and a cottage, which they rented for "staff."
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Old Aug 5th, 2012, 10:03 AM
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Hi. Yes, I heard they rented the whole palace! Maybe security on the ground floor, would you think? A friend here was telling us they constructed some sort of temporary fence in the canal around the watergate, so people couldn't see them embarking & disembarking.
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Old Aug 6th, 2012, 12:35 PM
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Makes sense that they would have their security on the ground floor, to head off any paparazzi trying to intrude!
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Caffe Rosso in Campo Santa Margerita has been quite good. I've also gone to Vergnano's next to Bancogiro (Rialto area) a few times.

Florian's is very good too but not cheap.
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