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Jan 24th, 2011, 05:41 AM
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Hi everyone, it looks like we have decided to fly directly from CDG to Manchester on Saturday 7/23. We will visit with family until taking the train back to London on Wednesday 7/27, we will fly back to US on 7/28. Do you think it is possible, if we leave Manchester as early as possible Wednesday, and choose our hotel location for that night wisely, that we could see any of London before leaving the next day? A few sites like Buckingham Palace or Big Ben? Or would it make more sense to just get our hotel near the airport so we are well situated for leaving the next day?
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Jan 24th, 2011, 05:55 AM
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YOu can definitely see a few things - you could even go to a show if you liked. Big Ben and Buckingham Palace are really just walk-bys. If you take an early train and get to London in the morning and settle into your hotel you could have all afternoon and evening in London.

What time is your flight back to the US - if its too early you may want to stay at the airport which will cut into your time...
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Jan 24th, 2011, 02:30 PM
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C.

It's about a 2 hour train trip. You could leave Manchester Piccadilly at 5:05 am and be at London Euston station before 7:30 a.m.

By 6:00 a.m., there are three trains an hour headed to London. Euston station is central, too.

Your issue will be in getting your luggage stored before you head off. I suggest that you confirm directly with your hotel that you can bring your luggage by EARLY on the 27th and that they will store it for you until you return later to check in. Don't book a hotel that won't confirm this for you. That way, you can stay out as late as you want seeing whatever you can and only have to return to the hotel to crash - maximizing your London time.

Considering your time frames, it might pay to get a hotel right right near Euston station or at Heathrow - it is only a 25 minute tube ride to central London. Euston will maximize your start time for sightseeing, Heathrow will put you at ease for readiness for your flight the next morning.

Now this London day will your planning challenge - Buckingham Palace and Big Ben are walking distance close, as is Westminster Abbey, and the London Eye. Heck, you could even make St. Paul's Cathedral if you're moving!
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Jan 24th, 2011, 02:41 PM
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"it might pay to get a hotel right right near Euston"

I'd get a hotel on the Piccadilly line - so you'd have a straight shot to LHR w/o any changes. Those stations include Kings Cross, Russell Square, Holborn, or Covent Garden (all a quick cab ride from Euston) - or farther along the piccadilly line Green Park (also on a direct tube line from Euston but few budget hotels in the area), South Kensington and Gloucester Rd.
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Jan 24th, 2011, 06:44 PM
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Thank you Aramis and janisj, these are super replies and will help a bunch in deciding on our hotel. We are still in the airline ticket buying process so I don't know our flight time back on Thursday but we are going to try not to leave until at least noon so we are not so rushed the next day. I am glad to know we should be able to see a bit of London, that will be fun. We can sleep when we get home!

I may be starting a new thread on this further down the planning line...
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Jan 24th, 2011, 10:34 PM
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I'd go further than saying they should get a hotel on the Piccadilly Line - they should get a hotel near Kings Cross as this will mean minimal backtracking when they arrive in London and if the hotel won't store luggage for early arrivals they can store their luggage for an eyewatering £8.50 per bag at the left luggage office at KX - which I believe is at the front of the station during the rebuild.

Of course this doesn't apply if their flight is early early
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Jan 26th, 2011, 02:23 AM
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I am once more the dissenting voice on this - I have already posted on your other thread, but I would repeat here that by the time you have schlepped out to CDG (or even worse, "Paris" Beauvais), allowed ages for check-in and flown to Stockport (whoops, sorry ... Manchester)you might as well have hopped on Eurostar in the centre of Paris, changed London termini with a short walk or tube (or cab if you must) and caught the fast train to Manchester.

Booked well in advance - as emphasised by an earlier poster - and shopping around on the internet, you can get Eurostar for £40 (in fact I have just got this price from South West France right through to London), and savvy ticket buying will get you from London to Manchester (as hubby did just before Christmas) for £10. But you DO have to shop carefully AND EARLY.

Maybe it's a very American thing (putting my head above the parapet here and waiting to be shot down ...) to assume that flying is the only way to go. Trains are more eco-friendly AND less stressful AND allow you to see stuff. But that's just my opinion. Good luck!
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Jan 26th, 2011, 03:00 AM
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I'd suggest that flying direct from Paris to Manchester is your best bet as you'll have the rail journey back to London after visiting your relations. This website gives public transport options from Airport into Manchester city centre or perhaps yr family will pick you up?
http://www.manchestertoolkit.com/air..._transfers.htm

I was going to suggest Travelodge for cheaper London hotel option but they can't store luggage. Husband & I recently stayed near London Bridge for 32GBP on a Sunday night but we just had one overnight bag which we carried around with us.
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Jan 26th, 2011, 11:23 AM
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Thank you Aveyronnaise and Bellini for your new posts. We will already have to be at CDG the day we need to leave Paris, as my son-in-law has to leave back for the States that day and cannot continue on to England with us. Since we will have been lucky enough to have had the previous 9 days or so in France, I do feel the need to get up to Manchester quickly (relatively speaking) and spend as much time as possible with my husband's family and having them meet my daughters. They all live in and around Newton Le Willows. I am even considering just missing London this trip and having the four of us fly back to the States from Manchester but I am betting I cannot do the open jaw thing that way so I cannot do it if is much more expensive, I haven't had time today to check that yet. I really hope to come back by myself just to England in a year or so and get to see a bit more at that point. So many things to see!
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Jan 26th, 2011, 11:36 AM
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"but I am betting I cannot do the open jaw thing that way "

Doing open jaw w/ a return out of MAN shouldn't be a problem. It is a major airport.
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Jan 26th, 2011, 01:16 PM
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Also, open-jaw typically raises the price of a plane ticket for the US to Europe and back by about %50-$100 which is less the what you spend doubling back to to airport you landed at.
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Jan 26th, 2011, 03:56 PM
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An open jaw out of MAN could be a problem. It is not a major European gateway airport for US carriers and only a couple fly directly into it from the US. The most likely result for c is that she could pick up a flight out of MAN back to a NY area airport and then connect through to Texas (DFW?)


Open jaws do not typically raise the price by 50-100%;

DFW - LON return for June 15-29 is $1117
DFW - LON out PAR - DFW back for the same dates is $1398

and, surprisingly;

DFW - LON out MAN - DFW back (same dates) goes for $1225 currently.

Lucky you that Continental - a major Texas based carrier uses MAN as a gateway. The connection is MAN - EWR - DFW.

So, it is probably doable.

That randomly checked difference is on these two options is 2% and 25% and my experience is that that the 25% differential is probably high for the exercise. It all depends on the relative return fares between the city pair involved.

c - are you flying back to CDG from London after your day in the London or are you flying open jaw out of London and the issue is whether you could fly open jaw back to the US out of MAN instead?

If you post some specifics on your airports (DFW? HOU?) and dates I can probably give you some information to trot to a travel agent with so you can see if you can nail something down.
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Jan 26th, 2011, 04:11 PM
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Sorry, that was a typo. I meant $50-$100 more for an open jaw as opposed to a strait round trip.

Yes, Manchester has very few non-stops to the US, but cbaird COULD connect elsewhere. London, Paris, Amsterdam, and Frankfurt all have non-stops to Dallas, for instance.
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Jan 26th, 2011, 07:04 PM
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Having talked with my daughters some more they really want a chance to at least see London, and don't mind getting up really early to leave Manchester the day before to do it. Also I really really don't want to fly anything but non stop back home, I know we will be tired and ready to get home and 2 of us have to work the next day. So I think we are looking at:
7/13 DFW to CDG - all 5 people fly
7/23 CDG to DFW - one person flies home
7/23 CDG to Manchester - 4 persons fly, airline to be determined, need to figure out the whole baggage thing
7/27 early early, train from Manchester to London per the above suggestions for a hotel to stay to make it doable, see what London we can and be back at airport or near it that nite,
7/28 Heathrow to DFW - 4 people fly out probably about 11:30am

I had hoped someone flew straight from Manchester to DFW but I don't see it. I would have paid some extra to do that and tried to talk the kids out of London probably but since it is not an option we will make it work, just have to understand all the train connection/tube stuff and probably the England relatives can help with all that anyway!
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Jan 26th, 2011, 10:52 PM
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If you aren't flying home from Manchester then it's a good idea to be in London the day before you travel in case of problems on the day.

But there's nothing preventing you from booking an open-jaw ticket from Manchester - there's no requirement that you *must* fly direct. The odds are that it would take you through LHR anyway but it means that the airline is responsible for getting you home in case of delays / cancellations.

As for staying near Heathrow - don't bother, just stay in central London, an 11:30am flight gives you plenty of public transport options for getting to LHR by 8:30am. It also saves you 2-3 hours in travelling to & from the hotel when you arrive from Manchester
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Jan 27th, 2011, 02:05 AM
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Yikes - what was your budget for airfare?

Non-stop both ways is running $1692 for the following itinerary on American


Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) to Paris (CDG) - Wed, Jul 13
American American 48 Dep: 5:10PM Arr: 9:40AM 9h 30m

London (LHR) to Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) - Thu, Jul 28
American American 79 Dep: 3:15PM Arr: 7:20PM 10h 5m

It is slightly cheaper to return from MAN - $1663 on American - but you connect through New York or Chicago

You can do the trip for about $1510 if you are willing to connect both ways. All kinds of airline options and stopovers - Chicago, Washington, Toronto, Houston. You would have to leave earlier in the day on the 13th, obviously.

Connecting on the way to CDG, but non-stop back from London, can be done but the fare is still $1623 on American so not much in the way of savings if you put up with a stopover on the way over.
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Jan 28th, 2011, 05:45 AM
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Yikes is right it is alot but this time window is the only one I have this year with 5 work schedules and college schedules to deal with. It is important to me to make this trip with my girls and their guys this year, some of my husband's family is getting quite old and we really want to see them before any longer.

Yup that is the flight there we will be taking and we cannot leave any earlier that day. And we are coming back nonstop on the 28th but the flight before that one. It costs a little more but I would rather get home 4 hours earlier as 2 of us have to work the next day. And there is so much to think about this trip I am keeping all the flights non stop. It is not that much savings compared the the hassle of switching, more chance to lose luggage etc.

If I am lucky I will get to go abroad again someday and maybe I will have the knowledge from this trip to make the next one cheaper cuz I'll know what to expect
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Jan 28th, 2011, 02:20 PM
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I hope your trip goes well - I understand the motivation.

I do hope you have a chance to get back again in the future (try Germany - ti rocks!).

People like you are the reason I enjoy these Forums.
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