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Feb 12th, 2018, 08:48 AM
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Yeh new route avoids tulip fields - forgot about that.
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Feb 12th, 2018, 11:57 PM
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There is no " plan to withdraw from the customs union", which has nothing to do with immigration controls anyway. The whole point about the Brexit squabble is that there is no plan, and won't be till Mrs May deems it the right moment to reveal how royally the Brexiteers have been shafted.

I realise that moving to the sticks has cut heitismij off from proper media. But surely she knows enough about the EU to realise what Schengen is, why Britain had the sense to keep out of it and why it's got nothing at all to do with the Brexit non-issue.

Or does she rely entirely on the hysterical Remoaner propaganda constantly pumped out by rags like the Guardian?
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Feb 13th, 2018, 12:24 AM
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Well, I think it is equally impressive to take a plane from Schipol or Rotterdam at night and see the dimensions and sheer size of the illuminated randstad region.
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Feb 13th, 2018, 01:21 AM
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And a nice view of tulip fields from the plane in spring

I love traveling by train, but from where I live it just takes up more time. If I can get a cheap Eurostar return, I'll take it though - there have been some great offers recently.
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Feb 13th, 2018, 02:28 AM
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I will definitely use this, but I will probably wait until the direct return service is sorted out.
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Feb 13th, 2018, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PalenQ View Post
Well the eyes of a foreign tourist menchem can see quite a different site- sure there is a lot of commercial development and highways but also the constant farm fields surrounding all of that. I just love to see the canals and sluitjes (drainage ditches) - the dykes protecting the fields - little farmhouses - again these go for miles and yes often interrupted by developed areas in one of the world's densest countries - I just love to sit and see how just about every inch of land is used for something. Cows and sheep graze all over the polders - even on edge of cities where cows may be in fields adjoining high-rise apartment buildings.

Between Schiphol Airport and Leiden the train tracks thru the edge of the heart of the tulip fields and at certain times you may see pulchritudinously dazzling spectors.

And even going thru say Rotterdam is awesome - anyway I actually find Holland (this part of Netherlands) very cool - no other place in Europe except Belgium is like it.

Yes folks seeing that everyday may think it boring whilst foreign tourists may well not.

And Kent, the 'Garden of England' can be cute for foreigners too - again many farms and novel things like hops growing and conical oast houses to dry them in.

Again locals may thing ho-hum but the eyes of a foreign tourist can see things quite differently. At least to me but maybe not to others.
The High Speed route Amsterdam - Rotterdam is mainly tunnels. Going through Rotterdam: a tunnel. Approaching Antwerp: a tunnel. The only really cool bit is the crossing of Hollands Diep at Moerdijk. That's about 2 minutes. Schiphol - Amsterdam High Speed is 20 minutes.
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Feb 13th, 2018, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by flanneruk View Post
There is no " plan to withdraw from the customs union", which has nothing to do with immigration controls anyway. The whole point about the Brexit squabble is that there is no plan, and won't be till Mrs May deems it the right moment to reveal how royally the Brexiteers have been shafted.

I realise that moving to the sticks has cut heitismij off from proper media. But surely she knows enough about the EU to realise what Schengen is, why Britain had the sense to keep out of it and why it's got nothing at all to do with the Brexit non-issue.

Or does she rely entirely on the hysterical Remoaner propaganda constantly pumped out by rags like the Guardian?

What are you reacting to? Or is this boilerplate text you bring out at opportunities such as these?
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Feb 13th, 2018, 12:46 PM
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OK not scenic due to tunnels and windblocks - if you can go to City Airport flying makes sense. But, Heathrow or Gatwick would be longer and expensive to get into London from too.
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Feb 14th, 2018, 11:30 AM
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BBC News says more than half of Brits now opposed leaving EU - and there could well be another vote - even though Corbin is a long anti-EUer he could use it for political advantage.
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