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Feb 12th, 2018, 07:48 AM
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Yeh new route avoids tulip fields - forgot about that.
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Feb 12th, 2018, 10:57 PM
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There is no " plan to withdraw from the customs union", which has nothing to do with immigration controls anyway. The whole point about the Brexit squabble is that there is no plan, and won't be till Mrs May deems it the right moment to reveal how royally the Brexiteers have been shafted.

I realise that moving to the sticks has cut heitismij off from proper media. But surely she knows enough about the EU to realise what Schengen is, why Britain had the sense to keep out of it and why it's got nothing at all to do with the Brexit non-issue.

Or does she rely entirely on the hysterical Remoaner propaganda constantly pumped out by rags like the Guardian?
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Feb 12th, 2018, 11:24 PM
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Well, I think it is equally impressive to take a plane from Schipol or Rotterdam at night and see the dimensions and sheer size of the illuminated randstad region.
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Feb 13th, 2018, 12:21 AM
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And a nice view of tulip fields from the plane in spring

I love traveling by train, but from where I live it just takes up more time. If I can get a cheap Eurostar return, I'll take it though - there have been some great offers recently.
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Feb 13th, 2018, 01:28 AM
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I will definitely use this, but I will probably wait until the direct return service is sorted out.
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Feb 13th, 2018, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PalenQ View Post
Well the eyes of a foreign tourist menchem can see quite a different site- sure there is a lot of commercial development and highways but also the constant farm fields surrounding all of that. I just love to see the canals and sluitjes (drainage ditches) - the dykes protecting the fields - little farmhouses - again these go for miles and yes often interrupted by developed areas in one of the world's densest countries - I just love to sit and see how just about every inch of land is used for something. Cows and sheep graze all over the polders - even on edge of cities where cows may be in fields adjoining high-rise apartment buildings.

Between Schiphol Airport and Leiden the train tracks thru the edge of the heart of the tulip fields and at certain times you may see pulchritudinously dazzling spectors.

And even going thru say Rotterdam is awesome - anyway I actually find Holland (this part of Netherlands) very cool - no other place in Europe except Belgium is like it.

Yes folks seeing that everyday may think it boring whilst foreign tourists may well not.

And Kent, the 'Garden of England' can be cute for foreigners too - again many farms and novel things like hops growing and conical oast houses to dry them in.

Again locals may thing ho-hum but the eyes of a foreign tourist can see things quite differently. At least to me but maybe not to others.
The High Speed route Amsterdam - Rotterdam is mainly tunnels. Going through Rotterdam: a tunnel. Approaching Antwerp: a tunnel. The only really cool bit is the crossing of Hollands Diep at Moerdijk. That's about 2 minutes. Schiphol - Amsterdam High Speed is 20 minutes.
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Feb 13th, 2018, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by flanneruk View Post
There is no " plan to withdraw from the customs union", which has nothing to do with immigration controls anyway. The whole point about the Brexit squabble is that there is no plan, and won't be till Mrs May deems it the right moment to reveal how royally the Brexiteers have been shafted.

I realise that moving to the sticks has cut heitismij off from proper media. But surely she knows enough about the EU to realise what Schengen is, why Britain had the sense to keep out of it and why it's got nothing at all to do with the Brexit non-issue.

Or does she rely entirely on the hysterical Remoaner propaganda constantly pumped out by rags like the Guardian?

What are you reacting to? Or is this boilerplate text you bring out at opportunities such as these?
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Feb 13th, 2018, 11:46 AM
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OK not scenic due to tunnels and windblocks - if you can go to City Airport flying makes sense. But, Heathrow or Gatwick would be longer and expensive to get into London from too.
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Feb 14th, 2018, 10:30 AM
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BBC News says more than half of Brits now opposed leaving EU - and there could well be another vote - even though Corbin is a long anti-EUer he could use it for political advantage.
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Mar 23rd, 2018, 06:27 AM
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Eurostar London-Amsterdam Direct Service...

starts April 4, 2018 my latest Thomas Cook email says. About time. 4 hours about each way - as quick as flying really city center to city center:

https://www.seat61.com/trains-and-ro...-amsterdam.htm

Eurostars will also stop at Rotterdam besides Brussels.
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Mar 23rd, 2018, 06:45 AM
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Note as previously discussed on Fodors- Amsterdam/Rotterdam trains are not direct but require Thalys to Brussels then Eurostar - due to passport/immigration controls - sometime in 2019 direct Amsterdam-London Eurostar trains should come on line. For now only London-Amsterdam direct Eurostar trains.
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Mar 23rd, 2018, 07:41 AM
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Good info, thanks Pal.
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Mar 23rd, 2018, 09:05 AM
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Looks like the two threads were combined . . . good
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Mar 23rd, 2018, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PalenQ View Post
Note as previously discussed on Fodors- Amsterdam/Rotterdam trains are not direct but require Thalys to Brussels then Eurostar - due to passport/immigration controls - sometime in 2019 direct Amsterdam-London Eurostar trains should come on line. For now only London-Amsterdam direct Eurostar trains.

Building work for the new platform/terminal/security check area has already started in Rotterdam.
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Mar 23rd, 2018, 10:23 AM
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Yes did not realize hetismij's thread was so recent or forgot.
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Mar 23rd, 2018, 11:36 AM
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Also, it seems that the number of tracks at Amsterdam Central is going to be reduced to 9, from 15. One of the changes will be that international trains, thalys and eurostar, and the regular international service to Brussels will depart from Zuid WTC Station, which will get an increase in tracks.
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Mar 23rd, 2018, 12:13 PM
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the move to Zuid is shocking - meaning most folks will have to trams there from central Amsterdam and In guess that they must be expanding Zuid too? No longer a true Central Station in Amsterdam! Most folks will arrive in a blah area rather than cool downtown Amsterdam.
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Mar 23rd, 2018, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PalenQ View Post
the move to Zuid is shocking - meaning most folks will have to trams there from central Amsterdam and In guess that they must be expanding Zuid too? No longer a true Central Station in Amsterdam! Most folks will arrive in a blah area rather than cool downtown Amsterdam.
The plan is to operate a light rail sprinter service using the present connection via Lelylaan to Amsterdam to Central Station (Airport Sprinter), easing the congestion on the present Schiphol - Amsterdam CS train line. Also, this would provide a vital public transport rail link for the new housing developments that are being built west of Houthaven.

Zuid will be expanded with two tracks. Transport to the city from there will be easier because of the new Noord - Zuid Metrolink, that will start its operation this year. The troubling thing is that it would be logical to extend the North South Link to Schiphol, but it will be at least 2030 before this can be a reality. The Central Station thing is also a tug of war between ProRail, the train infrastructure operator, and NS, the train transport provider. One of the complicating factors is the fact that there might be a European tender for the Schiphol - Amsterdam Airport Sprinter.
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Mar 23rd, 2018, 01:26 PM
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Dank u- makes sense because of new metro and old trams reaching hotels easier from Zuid than hectic Centraal Station. Probably quicker to hotels around Museumplein.
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