111op

Parts of this should be very easy.

Clue: To some extent, it all started in this city: 8 letters, 2nd = "l" (ell).

The skyline is, in particular, dominated by the (object: 4 letters) designed by (person: 12 letters, which has 2 "l"s). A book was written about this important achievement.

This person was also credited with inventing the concept of 11 letters (I think, hope I didn't miscount), and the oldest surviving painting that employs this concept correctly is reputedly one by this artist (8 letters), located in the (3 letters -- give initials) church.

cmt

Florence, Brunelleschi, perspective, Masaccio?, SMN

111op

Yes. It was that easy?

cmt

It was the 4-letter object that made it easy. The first 4-letter thing I thought of that could dominate a sklyline was "dome," and the rest just followed. But I needed to do a search re the first surviving painting to use linear perspective.

111op

I just did some "research" on it lately. There's a lot I don't know about early art -- actually early Flemish art is also very interesting, like stuff by Jan van Eyck. But well, I guess there's a lot I don't know about art. But most people just seem to be interested in the Impressionists, which after a while, are not that interesting.

I'm going to the Met on Sunday to see the new Duccio acquisition. It's only on view for three months.

111op

By the way, the Duccio is permanent but the Met will take it down briefly for conservation and study after the initial viewing period.

For those who missed the news, the Met paid 45 million for this painting less than the size of a sheet of paper.

http://www.metmuseum.org/special/se_event.asp?OccurrenceId={BB5C2DEF-30D3-48BE-91DF-EEC788EA969C}&HomePageLink=special_c2a

cmt

People may like to LOOK at the imprressionist art, but there's a lot more to THINK about in the hsitory of the earlier art. I appreciate both.

Is there a seprate admission ticket for the Duccio? That's such a nuisance. I hate to have to plan ahead. There's a slight chance I might go to the Met this weekend. I was vaguely planning to go last Friday, but I got off to a late start, so just walked around NYC instead. I then got stuck on a train that broke down on the way home, and our whole full trainload had to be "rescued" by another train on the same route, turning the hour and a quarter ride into four hours.

111op

That's true. There's also a lot to think about in contemporary art.

The train system in the US is such a joke -- but I guess it's not as bad as the UK's....

No, there's no separate admission for Duccio (at least, not that I'm aware). In fact, I think that this is the Met policy. I seem to have remembered reading somewhere that an exhibition would bypass the Met because the Met didn't want to charge extra for it -- I think it's a collection of King Tut's treasures from Egypt.

You still have to give us a clue....

111op

This is the article that King Tut will bypass the Met:

http://travel2.nytimes.com/mem/trave...51C1A9629C8B63

When the article was written the Brooklyn Museum is mentioned as a possibility.

Quote:

Mr. Hawass said he received a letter from the Met's director, Philippe de Montebello, last week saying he had been unable to persuade the Board of Trustees to break the museum's policy and charge a separate admission for the show. Mr. de Montebello, reached by phone on Tuesday, reiterated that policy.

cmt

However, don't you need to get a special ticket (even if at no extra charge) for special exhibitions? I think I had to do that was for the Da Vinci drawings exhibit about two years ago. Maybe I'm confused....

111op

Really? I don't remember doing that -- but I remember very long lines for that exhibition. But I don't remember much of what I saw. I think the Leicester Codex (? whatever Bill Gates owns) was on view. Also some painting of St. Jerome (?) from the Vatican.

That's about it.

111op

Now, come to think of it, I'm surprised that the Vatican lent the Met such an important work:

http://mv.vatican.va/3_EN/pages/x-Select/20select.html

(Highlights from the Vatican.)

Codex Leicester:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/leonardo/genius.html



I'm pretty sure that it was in the exhibition.

cmt

Maybe I'm remembering wrong. There was a horribly long line, but maybe not a separate ticket.

Now for the new clues. Humor me.

This painting (http://www.parcogallipolicognato.it/image/foto_19.jpg ) and these photos (http://media.supereva.it/lucani.freeweb/photo.htm?p http://media.supereva.it/lucani.freeweb/photo.htm?p ) show some of the pairs of oxen pulling an oak tree into the town of (9 letters, 2nd is a “c” from Masaccio) in (10 letters, 5th is an “L” from Brunelleschi) to be “married” to a holly tree carried in by men from the town ( http://www.parcogallipolicognato.it/...adizioni_1.jpg ) in a ceremony that is part of an ancient festival with pagan tree cult origins. This pagan celebration coincides with the celebration of the town’s patron saint (2 words: 2, 8, ends with the “o” from dome) seven weeks after Easter.

111op

I did try to search for this a little but had to go back to work.

Well, I guess I won't bother with this for now.

But Happy New Year again, everyone!

cmt

Happy New Year!

I was just now checking F again.

HOW did you search. This requires a different method of searching. Use what's posted.

111op

I think I tried various random combinations. I tried to find out who the saint is for Pentecost (which is seven weeks after Christmas).

But, you know, it's the end of the year for me. The end of work. I just had champagne and I don't think that I want to work on this thread right now.

111op

I think I tried some random stuff -- I figured out 7 weeks after Easter is Pentecost, and I tried to use that.

But anyway, it's the end of the work day for me (I had to work), end of the year. I had some champagne and I don't want to think about this thread right now.

111op

Oops -- sorry. Thought that first post didn't go through as Fodors returned an error.

cmt

When you get around to working on it, use what I posted and "explore" around the urls.

111op

Where's yk when we need her?

We need more people to play this game.

See, cmt, if you had given me a baby clue, I'd have gotten it and I'd have given you once to think about and you'd be entertained. Now you need to wait for the clue to be solved.