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LVSue Jan 21st, 2005 07:17 AM

Chateaubriand Jacques Cartier

cmt Jan 21st, 2005 07:51 AM

Yes. Your turn, LVSue.

LVSue Jan 21st, 2005 08:14 AM

Great clues, cmt! Bear with me all because I'm just joining this game (and you happened to hit me with one of my favorites, St. Malo)

Bull-headed man who built a homemade wonder (full name 15 letters; 10th letter the C in Chateaubriand).

It was initially scorned by the public, but came to be much admired by artists and thinkers such as _ _ _ _ _ (first name beginning with A) _ _ _ _ _ _

cmt Jan 22nd, 2005 10:14 AM

ttt

yk Jan 23rd, 2005 06:37 PM

Topping for other players.
Maybe a hint, LVSue?

grandmere Jan 23rd, 2005 06:48 PM

LVSue, you say "full name" is 15 letters; could you give us the break down of how many in first name, last name, plz?

cmt Jan 23rd, 2005 07:23 PM

Because it was apparently all one word, I thought maybe it was the name of invention that had 15 letters.

111op Jan 24th, 2005 03:19 AM

It's the invention that has 15 letters?

Maybe I'll look at it again later.

111op Jan 24th, 2005 03:58 AM

Hm.... I read this again and I guess it's not clear what has 15 letters.

cmt Jan 24th, 2005 04:41 AM

LVSue will need to tell us. In context, it seems like it should be the name, except that it's unusual for someone, except for the ancients, to be known by only one name, and even more unusual for it to be so long. If it's the name of the invention, it could be a long technical name that is customarily shortened.

LVSue Jan 24th, 2005 03:28 PM

Sorry, I'm out of town and don't get much chance to check. By full name, I meant first & last: first 9 letters, second the rest (beginning with C).

It's in France.

LVSue Jan 24th, 2005 03:30 PM

And it's not an invention. It's something you travel to see. (a sight, if you will)

cmt Jan 25th, 2005 03:52 AM

Oh, not at all what I was thinking. Someone will get it.

111op Jan 25th, 2005 04:12 AM

My reaction is that it's a castle. But it's probably wrong.

cmt Jan 25th, 2005 04:59 AM

It's that "homemade" description that puzzles me, because it's hard to apply it to architecture.

111op Jan 25th, 2005 05:02 AM

You're right. I think that my reading skills are just really deteriorating -- when I saw LVSue's clarification, I thought it was something castle. Then I realized that she wrote first and last names, so the combined 15 letters was the name of the person.

I think that I'm just reading whatever I want to be reading into what other people are writing. :-)

LVSue Jan 25th, 2005 06:16 PM

Nonetheless, 111op, you're on the right track. Yes, his whole name takes 15 letters, but his "construction" is called the P----- I---- du (his profession) C----- (his last name). It is quite a sight to see! (I'm home again)

111op Jan 26th, 2005 03:44 AM

Could this be Alexander Calder?

But I don't see what the homemade wonder is.

Also the profession is sculptor and it doesn't start with "L." I was thinking the first word is Palais. Don't see how all this fits together.

cmt Jan 26th, 2005 05:05 AM

Since LVSue said you were on the right track (with thinking it was a castle), maybe the name of his construction, which starts with p - - - - - starts with the word "palais" (somewhat like castle). I can't guess further than that, but since Calder fits, maybe you can proceed from there to figure out the rest.

cmt Jan 26th, 2005 05:12 AM

Oh, you said that already. But where do you see an L in the clue? I missed that.


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