Euronight Train from Munich to Budapest - doubts
Jul 22nd, 2012, 07:34 PM
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Euronight Train from Munich to Budapest - doubts
Me and my friend would like to take double sleeper in a night train from Munich to Budapest (EN 463) on the Euronight train using the DB Bahn site. However, I'm confused about one thing.
I attempt to book a ticket just for 2 people in a Sleeper, I have interest in the following options:
Global fare - 2 saving-Night and Europa-Spezial:
2 persons in Economy Double cabin:
158,00 eur for Global fare ( 2 saving-Night)
and 218,00 eur for Europa-Spezial fare
I choose the option of 158,00 euros, however when I proceed the booking and I am about to pay.
All the data are correct except for the data about the sleeper: "Reservation Request" that says: 2 seats in the fisrt class.
I chose a double sleeper and they say that it is 2 seats
Then, I try the other option of 218,00 euros and then they appear to be correct: 2 beds in a double sleeper cabin.
If they dont sell beds in the "saving-night" option why does it appear? I dont understand that.
Has anyone made this trip?
Any help would be appreciated - thanks in advance!
I attempt to book a ticket just for 2 people in a Sleeper, I have interest in the following options:
Global fare - 2 saving-Night and Europa-Spezial:
2 persons in Economy Double cabin:
158,00 eur for Global fare ( 2 saving-Night)
and 218,00 eur for Europa-Spezial fare
I choose the option of 158,00 euros, however when I proceed the booking and I am about to pay.
All the data are correct except for the data about the sleeper: "Reservation Request" that says: 2 seats in the fisrt class.
I chose a double sleeper and they say that it is 2 seats
Then, I try the other option of 218,00 euros and then they appear to be correct: 2 beds in a double sleeper cabin.
If they dont sell beds in the "saving-night" option why does it appear? I dont understand that.
Has anyone made this trip?
Any help would be appreciated - thanks in advance!
Jul 22nd, 2012, 08:09 PM
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Global fares for night-time travel
The “Spar-Night” offer lets you travel through the night at lower fares. The “Spar-Night” fares comprise a ticket and reservation for a comfort category of your choice. Please note that the “Spar-Night” offer cannot be exchanged and is non-refundable. Other reductions, e.g. with the BahnCard, are not granted. Further global fare offers apply in the night trains to France, Belgium and Italy.
"Junior" tariff: for travellers under 26, non-refundable from the departure date.
"Senior" tariff: for travellers over 60, non-refundable from the departure date.
"Tourist" tariff: for adults when the outward and return journey is booked at the same time with at least one night’s stay at the destination.
The whole booking is refundable up to one day before departure of the outward journey at 50% of the travel fare. From the departure date of the outward journey the booking cannot be exchanged and is non-refundable.
"Mini" tariff: cannot be exchanged and is non-refundable. Only offered in the comfort categories seating and couchette carriages.
You have to pay a surcharge for the desired category - sleeper, couchette or seating carriage - in addition to the ticket for night trains. The fares shown here usually already include this surcharge for night trains.
The “Spar-Night” offer lets you travel through the night at lower fares. The “Spar-Night” fares comprise a ticket and reservation for a comfort category of your choice. Please note that the “Spar-Night” offer cannot be exchanged and is non-refundable. Other reductions, e.g. with the BahnCard, are not granted. Further global fare offers apply in the night trains to France, Belgium and Italy.
"Junior" tariff: for travellers under 26, non-refundable from the departure date.
"Senior" tariff: for travellers over 60, non-refundable from the departure date.
"Tourist" tariff: for adults when the outward and return journey is booked at the same time with at least one night’s stay at the destination.
The whole booking is refundable up to one day before departure of the outward journey at 50% of the travel fare. From the departure date of the outward journey the booking cannot be exchanged and is non-refundable.
"Mini" tariff: cannot be exchanged and is non-refundable. Only offered in the comfort categories seating and couchette carriages.
You have to pay a surcharge for the desired category - sleeper, couchette or seating carriage - in addition to the ticket for night trains. The fares shown here usually already include this surcharge for night trains.
Jul 22nd, 2012, 09:22 PM
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I've just tried to replicate your booking at www.bahn.de
I see what i expect to see, a fare for each type of couchette and sleeper at the spar-night (saving night) rate, which is an inclusive fare for this train covering travel and sleeper or couchette, and 'spezials' where the prices shown are made up of a €29/€39/€39 'spezial' travel ticket plus the appropriate supplement for the relevant type of couchette or sleeper. And the full price, of course.
I think the system just handles these two fare types differently, as they are compiled differently. You'll notice the spezial gets a self-print option whereas the spar-night has to be sent by mail, for example.
In 10 years of running my website, I have never had anyone yet select something clearly shown as a sleeper, and end up in a seat, certainly not the the pretty good Bahn.de website, so I'm 99.99% sure you're safe to go ahead and book the €158 saving night fare for a double sleeper. But do confirm 100% after you go, just in case this arises again!
I see what i expect to see, a fare for each type of couchette and sleeper at the spar-night (saving night) rate, which is an inclusive fare for this train covering travel and sleeper or couchette, and 'spezials' where the prices shown are made up of a €29/€39/€39 'spezial' travel ticket plus the appropriate supplement for the relevant type of couchette or sleeper. And the full price, of course.
I think the system just handles these two fare types differently, as they are compiled differently. You'll notice the spezial gets a self-print option whereas the spar-night has to be sent by mail, for example.
In 10 years of running my website, I have never had anyone yet select something clearly shown as a sleeper, and end up in a seat, certainly not the the pretty good Bahn.de website, so I'm 99.99% sure you're safe to go ahead and book the €158 saving night fare for a double sleeper. But do confirm 100% after you go, just in case this arises again!
Jul 22nd, 2012, 09:30 PM
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I should add that in this case, the system doesn't show car or betrh numbers before you pay, so I can't check that way.
But this should give you peace of mind immediately after you've booked, rather than having to wait to see what you get when you board the train:
The Munich-Budapest sleeping-car on this train should be car 263, as you can see from the composition shown here: http://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/vlak.p...o=462&rok=2012
Your berth numbers should have a 1 and 5 OR a 2 and 6 as the last digit, for example 41 and 45. Don't panic that you're not in the same room, you are! 1 and 2 and lower berths, 3 and 4 are middle berths (not used when the compartment is set up as a 2-berth), 5 and 6 are uppers. The first digit is the compartment, or in a sleeping-car, adjacent pair of compartments. So 11 & 15 are in the first compartment, 12 and 16 in the next, 21 and 25 in the next, 22 and 26 in the next, 31 and 35 in the next, and so on.
But this should give you peace of mind immediately after you've booked, rather than having to wait to see what you get when you board the train:
The Munich-Budapest sleeping-car on this train should be car 263, as you can see from the composition shown here: http://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/vlak.p...o=462&rok=2012
Your berth numbers should have a 1 and 5 OR a 2 and 6 as the last digit, for example 41 and 45. Don't panic that you're not in the same room, you are! 1 and 2 and lower berths, 3 and 4 are middle berths (not used when the compartment is set up as a 2-berth), 5 and 6 are uppers. The first digit is the compartment, or in a sleeping-car, adjacent pair of compartments. So 11 & 15 are in the first compartment, 12 and 16 in the next, 21 and 25 in the next, 22 and 26 in the next, 31 and 35 in the next, and so on.
Jul 23rd, 2012, 11:12 AM
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kybourbon,
I didn't know Global Fares were for ages under 26 or over 60. I'm not in those categories.
TimS,
Thank you for your reply.
Man_in_seat_61,
I've read your page trying to find a clue before, I didn't send you a note there because you said you were busy on July and August.
Thank you for your reply.
I think I will proceed and book the €158 saving night fare for a double sleeper and expect the best!
Thank you very much for the responses. They helped me a lot.
Best regards,
Alice
I didn't know Global Fares were for ages under 26 or over 60. I'm not in those categories.
TimS,
Thank you for your reply.
Man_in_seat_61,
I've read your page trying to find a clue before, I didn't send you a note there because you said you were busy on July and August.
Thank you for your reply.
I think I will proceed and book the €158 saving night fare for a double sleeper and expect the best!
Thank you very much for the responses. They helped me a lot.
Best regards,
Alice
Jul 23rd, 2012, 03:38 PM
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Alice,
Yes, I did my dummy booking on the DB site. For two beds in a 2-bed Economy Double cabin I found a Europa-Spezial Ungarn fare of €218.00 and a Saving-Night fare of €158.00. I entered 30 as the age of each passenger. The Saving-Night fare for two seats was €58.00.
Yes, I did my dummy booking on the DB site. For two beds in a 2-bed Economy Double cabin I found a Europa-Spezial Ungarn fare of €218.00 and a Saving-Night fare of €158.00. I entered 30 as the age of each passenger. The Saving-Night fare for two seats was €58.00.
Jul 23rd, 2012, 03:40 PM
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Why on earth you would want to travel this way is beyond me-overnight travel is so over.
Let me warn you, you won't get much sleep.A few years ago, we were part of a tour group and had to take the overnight train from Lviv to Budapest-a nightmare!
Let me warn you, you won't get much sleep.A few years ago, we were part of a tour group and had to take the overnight train from Lviv to Budapest-a nightmare!
Jul 23rd, 2012, 05:55 PM
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Generally speaking, the further east you go in Europe the worse the trains. A Lviv To Budapest train is not a good comparison to a Munich to Budapest Euronight train. Plus, I've slept well on a lot of night trains...
Jul 24th, 2012, 07:02 AM
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TimS,
My doubt is: when I try the saving-night fare of 158 euros, at the end of the booking they sayat the Reservation Request: "Train with reservation obligation, 2 seats in the 1 class" - The problem is that I don't want 2 seats - but 2 beds. Did you notice that?
My doubt is: when I try the saving-night fare of 158 euros, at the end of the booking they sayat the Reservation Request: "Train with reservation obligation, 2 seats in the 1 class" - The problem is that I don't want 2 seats - but 2 beds. Did you notice that?
Jul 24th, 2012, 07:07 AM
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chapla,
Thank you for replying. I thought of traveling at night because I would not like to travel 7hs during the day. it seems to be a waste of time. The flight tickets in this route is very expensive. It seems I dont have a better option. I have heard pros and cons about overnight travels. I just would like to experience it once. But soemtimes I am really confused about what to do...
Thank you for replying. I thought of traveling at night because I would not like to travel 7hs during the day. it seems to be a waste of time. The flight tickets in this route is very expensive. It seems I dont have a better option. I have heard pros and cons about overnight travels. I just would like to experience it once. But soemtimes I am really confused about what to do...
Jul 24th, 2012, 11:16 AM
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Guys,
After reading and reading the DB Bahn site I found out that the Saving-Fares are valid only for travel inside Germany.
I read here: http://www.bahn.de/i/view/overseas/e...-spezial.shtml
Best regards,
Alice
After reading and reading the DB Bahn site I found out that the Saving-Fares are valid only for travel inside Germany.
I read here: http://www.bahn.de/i/view/overseas/e...-spezial.shtml
Best regards,
Alice
Feb 22nd, 2013, 01:02 PM
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I am trying to book a double sleeper overnight from Munich to Budapest for a 24yr old and 27yr old and I keep getting this from the bahn.com website "Train with reservation obligation, 2 seats in the 1. class"
Nothing about a sleeper in the confirmation. I'm choosing the saver option. Am I doing something wrong? Please help!
Nothing about a sleeper in the confirmation. I'm choosing the saver option. Am I doing something wrong? Please help!
Feb 22nd, 2013, 03:23 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by selecting the saver option, but you should get a screen with choices of compartments. What is your date? Are you selecting the train that departs at 23:40? Your choices should look be similar to these and will have an x for fares sold out. These fares are for 2 travelers with the ages you listed.
Your offers for the selected connection
All displayed offers contain the ticket and the reservation for the night train.
Day couch -
2 persons in compartment or centre-aisle coach
Global fare 2 Saving-Night - 58€
Europa-Spezial Ungarn(incl. 2 Surcharge) - 124€
Global fare 2 Normal - 190€
Normalpreis(incl. 2 Surcharge)- 229,20€
Couchette -2 persons in 6-berth cabin
98,00 EUR - 158,00 EUR - 218,00 EUR - 263,20 EUR
2 persons in 4-berth cabin
118,00 EUR - 168,00 EUR - 230,00 EUR - 273,20 EUR
Sleeper
2 persons in Economy 3-berth cabin
138,00 EUR - 188,00 EUR - 240,00 EUR - 293,20 EUR
2 persons in Economy Double cabin
158,00 EUR - 218,00 EUR - 278,00 EUR - 323,20 EUR
2 persons in 2 Economy Single cabins
278,00 EUR - 318,00 EUR - 418,00 EUR - 423,20 EUR
*The four price categories are listed under the day couch section.*
Your offers for the selected connection
All displayed offers contain the ticket and the reservation for the night train.
Day couch -
2 persons in compartment or centre-aisle coach
Global fare 2 Saving-Night - 58€
Europa-Spezial Ungarn(incl. 2 Surcharge) - 124€
Global fare 2 Normal - 190€
Normalpreis(incl. 2 Surcharge)- 229,20€
Couchette -2 persons in 6-berth cabin
98,00 EUR - 158,00 EUR - 218,00 EUR - 263,20 EUR
2 persons in 4-berth cabin
118,00 EUR - 168,00 EUR - 230,00 EUR - 273,20 EUR
Sleeper
2 persons in Economy 3-berth cabin
138,00 EUR - 188,00 EUR - 240,00 EUR - 293,20 EUR
2 persons in Economy Double cabin
158,00 EUR - 218,00 EUR - 278,00 EUR - 323,20 EUR
2 persons in 2 Economy Single cabins
278,00 EUR - 318,00 EUR - 418,00 EUR - 423,20 EUR
*The four price categories are listed under the day couch section.*
Feb 23rd, 2013, 07:18 AM
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Thanks for your help Kybourbon. When I choose the Sleeper 2 persons in Economy Double cabin, 158,000 EURO all works great till I get to check out. AT checkout it says Reservation Request: Train with reservation obligation, 2 seats in the 2. class.
I am booking a sleeper, not two seats.
Am I doing something wrong? Thanks for your help.
Can I not book the saver (158,000) fare?
I am booking a sleeper, not two seats.
Am I doing something wrong? Thanks for your help.
Can I not book the saver (158,000) fare?
