English Reaches One Million Words...
 

putting it far ahead of languages like French which are said to have about 100,000 distinct words.

The English growth has leapt in recent years due to internet terms, high tech terms, etc.

Well this is what at least one august dictionary company or whatever recently said i read

Thus is English getting harder for locals to use and comprehend and will this cause problems communicating in Europe?

The average English speaking person only has about 2,000 words in their vocabulary. For a person with a university degree this range in vocabulary would rise to about 3000 to 4000. These are about the same as for speakers of French.

FWIW, William Shakespeare, based upon his writings, is believed to have possessd a vocabulary of around 21,000 words. An overwhelming weapons arsenal with which to engage in verbal dueling.

I've seen to me shocking figures that teens in America basically use only a few hundred words or so - maybe less when talking to each other

You mean going to university doubles your vocabulary? Let's see .... beer, jug, case, party, flunk, dropout. Yeah maybe it does.

The fact that English is growing in vocabulary so extraordinarily and French and other langues are fairly stagnant only shows what is a blessing for the tourist - the dominance of English as the world's common language

Thank God

>English Reaches One Million Words...

Yeah, but when those words are those such as
prioritize
monatize
irregardless
grody
snarky.....

is that such a good thing?

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I'd challenge the assumption here.

Internet and hi tech words get used in French and German too. Next time you get a new medical problem, find out what it's called in French or German, then google it, specifying results in German or French only. Words like hypoprothrombinemia find their way into French and German texts - and probably Chinese and Russian ones too.

What's far more likely is that French and German dictionaries aren't picking up new words as obsessively as the OED and its competitors because - with a far smaller customer base - they have neither the resources to monitor new use, nor the revenue that's available from having perpetually updated dictionaries.

I wonder how many people have started using nouns as verbs, as in, "Let us dialogue together."

Hi D,

>I wonder how many people have started using nouns as verbs,

This is not a new phenom(enon).

In the 1680's Mr Pepys wrote in his diary, "The King went sliding on his skates" (on the frozen Thames).

Today, we would say, "The King went skating".

((I))

http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexper...twords?view=uk

While most of the English IT or tech vocabulary becomes part of the German vocabulary untranslated (i.e. blog, chatroom, cursor, etc), mostly medical vocabulary is derived from Greek or Latin. So, I would say that neither hypothermia nor Hypothermie is English, French, or German.

I read somewhere in some magazine from some important organization that - according to recent scientific studies - to follow a typical Fodor's forum discussion, one only has to master a rather limited vocabulary of appr. 100 words of English which includes: "shoes/ wear", "foodie", "Euro/ expensive", "(to) train", "adaptor", and the meaning of the abbreviations AC, CT, MSM, CDG, and BO ;-)

"So, I would say that neither hypothermia nor Hypothermie is English, French, or German."

Good point. But the OED DOES regard 'hypothermia' as an English word, so when it got coined it became English word no 900,001 or whatever. The Academie Francaise probably gets round to discussing whether it's worthy to be counted as French some time in 2035.

LOL.. good point!

I did not mean that hypothermia should not be listed (and counted) as an English word.

But the plethora of words derived from Latin/Greek makes it actually a bit easier for a foreign student to learn English - while the abundance of verbs which describe more or less the same action (but in detailed variation, respectively) makes it harder.

From my personal experience, I would say that English is a language which will let you get started quite easily. But it is almost impossible to reach a level of perfection, in my opinion.

The French?

They spend years getting round to renaming new English words, out of spite as far as I can work out.

Quite recently the Academy Francaise decided that "email" which everyone uses, was Anglo-Saxon, and the correct French term is "Courriel", which no-one uses at all.

Thanks to the endless compound words we are able to create, the number of words in German is infinite. So we're just smiling about that lousy one million!

Yes but fewer than 10 can be said to be true English words - the rest are from other languages.

English users tend to adopt foreign words and give them a more restricted meaning. Eg the French maison means house, but also means home.

In English we could say home, house, flat, apartment, bungalow, cottage, dwelling etc.

But if a French person tells you he lives in a house on the third floor you will probably know what he means.

It probably makes it easier for locals - they can just say their local word with an English accent and it will be understood.

I think I have made up about half that number when I saw the price of the Euro.

quokka, English and German being related, German makes new verbs by attaching a preposition. In English, the preposition follows. E.g., run into, run out, run over, run through, run for, run to, etc. So whereas in German those might be considered separate words, they're not in English.

I remember hearing that an article or book translated into French, for example, has many more words. English has many word choices with fine shadings of meaning. In French to convey the same meaning, adverbs and adjectives have to be added.

Hyphenated words were not counted it said

for example the written words for 1 thru one million - three-hundred-forty-three would not count as a separate word or you would have one million words just there

"In English we could say home, house, flat, apartment, bungalow, cottage, dwelling etc."

We say : maison, villa, appartement, manoir, château, pavillon, chalet, bastide, mas, pied-à-terre,maisonette, hôtel particulier, chaumière, fermette, gentilhommière, demeure, studio, bonbonnière, résidence, logement, immeuble, etc..........

"But if a French person tells you he lives in a house on the third floor you will probably know what he means".

The problem is : he won't ! :-)
Je rentre à la maison = I am going home = je rentre chez moi regardless of the type of building his "home" is. Or even better : je rentre.

One thing I have remarked about the French is that they have gaps in their own vocabulary describing everyday things. Examples include.

Hinges
Cup handle
Bollard
Ball bearing
key (as on keyboard)

HR Hartley

Could you please elaborate? I am afraid I don't understand. Do you mean there are no words in French for hinges, cup handle, etc?

No, not at all, it's just that they don't seem to be in their active vocabulary.

I just tested the "key" on my French colleague, and he had no idea.

This morning my girlfriend (long story) failed to name a cup-handle, which is why this came to mind.

I see ! thank you for the explanation.

cup handle = l'anse de la tasse

Keyboard = clavier.
Piano keyboard = clavier de piano

Everytime flanner.uk posts we add a few dozen more new words to English - it all adds up

" remember hearing that an article or book translated into French, for example, has many more words. English has many word choices with fine shadings of meaning"

You won't believe the fine shades of meaning that Spanish have. But almost every sentence in English would be longer when translated into Spanish. It is our way of writing what makes the difference. Usually English texts are very direct in style and in general, easier to read than French or Spanish ones whose writers just love to be known because their wording and sometimes it seems that the difficult to understand the text and the wording, the happier they are.

http://www.languagemonitor.com/

The latest word to enter the English language is ‘obama’ in its many variations, according to the Global Language Monitor

Obama- is used as a ‘root’ for an ever-expanding number of words, including obamamentum, obamacize, obamarama, obamaNation, obamanomics, obamican, obamafy, obamamania, and obamacam.

Yikes! Are they adding anything in random to the list of words? Or words that are used once or twice by somebody and then forgotten forever?

Word-watcher counts on English hitting 1 million words
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...93/1009/NEWS07

Here's the article i read

<<In the 1680's Mr Pepys wrote in his diary, "The King went sliding on his skates" (on the frozen Thames).>>

Exactly when did you read this Ira?

probably in the 1860s!

key (on keyboard) = touche
hinge = charnière
bollard = poteau
ballbearing = roulement à bille

As far as I know, all these words would be in your average French adult's vocabulary...

Hinge is Gond.
Bollard is Bitte (no sniggering!)