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Old Jul 21st, 2014, 12:31 PM
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An anglophobe is not someone who likes American culture, of whatever ethnicity!

Refer to an Irishman as an Anglo and you are likely to personally experience a display of the pugilistic skills that they are renowned for!

Have you never heard of the Angles (their name lives on in the word - England).


Two countries separated by the same language1
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Old Jul 21st, 2014, 12:36 PM
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What is interesting to me is
1) Research shows that there are lots of different definitions of Anglo
2) This Brit didn't know it refered to him and certainly after a pretty long time of working and holidaying in France or with the french in the UK/US I'd not heard the term Anglo, though the term Brit is pretty much well understood.
3) I'd be fascinated where Anglo-Indian for instance falls in these terms

jtpj I was not referring to the little issue of the criminals of Boston and their wish to steal from their fellow colonists I was thinking more about the war between the north and south and whenever that finished ;-)
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Oops, that should have read, Anglophile!
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Old Jul 21st, 2014, 12:40 PM
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Oops, that should have read, Anglophile!

Bilboburgler - I stand corrected! Was hoping for a bit of sport on that topic!
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Old Jul 21st, 2014, 01:32 PM
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>>so so what - what did the writers of that article mean coming from where they are coming from - that is the point. <<


Actually . . . the writer of the article is a troll who has left the building and I don't give a rat's a$$ what he meant.

Interesting that he has been nuked but his fame carries on since the link remains.
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Old Jul 24th, 2014, 11:28 AM
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What a bunch of snobbish comments. I enjoyed the article and knew immediately what "Anglo" meant in the context of the article. In fact, didn't even give it a thought until I read the comments. Also thought the advice was generally good. If you don't buy wine regularly, you'd have doubts even today about whether a screw-cap bottle was worthy of purchase.
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Old Jul 24th, 2014, 12:33 PM
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Trouble is that while you may have understood the word, the discussion showed that many of us didn't or indeed still do not. Is it cultural? Is it racial? Very odd.
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Old Jul 24th, 2014, 03:23 PM
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I'd stick with kerouc's explanation.

The article on the website looks as if it had been written in France. So it might not be too far fetched that the author heard that word in use in France, possibly by the French, and not in Glasgow, Galway or Pittsburgh. In fact, I can imagine that the phrase will be easier decoded by people living on the Continent than in Britain, Ireland, the US or Australia.

While it is probably easy to identify cultural differences between the British and New Zealanders and Americans when you are a citizen of either country, many of those discrepancies perceived as massive or important become somewhat blurred or irrelevant for an outsider.

As kerouc described, the term is not excessively precise but Anglo - as shorthard for Anglo-American - could be used for generalization or for phrasing sentences like this:
"Going for drinks after work with your colleagues has a long tradition in the Anglo (-American) countries, while this concept is somewhat foreign or has only been recently adopted elsewhere."
"The dominance of Anglo-American pop culture remained uncontested from 1950s till the late 1990s."
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Old Jul 28th, 2014, 10:52 AM
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Heard a young African-American this weekend on the radio use the term "Anglo" to describe non-Latino whites living in "majority-minority" New Mexico.
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Old Jul 28th, 2014, 12:05 PM
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Ha ha, speaking of African-Americans, I am still totally confused by that term because whenever I see a black person in the U.S., I have no idea if they are a citizen or not. One of my colleagues from Martinique was extremely offended when she heard that term, as were some Senegalese friends who visited as tourists. They felt completely excluded whenever the term "African American" was used, as though there was something wrong with just being black.
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Old Jul 28th, 2014, 01:23 PM
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So, what does the phrase: Anglo-American relations, mean?
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jtpg777 asks: "So, what does the phrase: Anglo-American relations, mean?"

Miscegenation.
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Old Jul 28th, 2014, 02:00 PM
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I'm inclined to interpret "Anglo", when used among English-speakers in France, as a contraction of "Anglophone".
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Old Jul 28th, 2014, 02:00 PM
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Kerouac, one of my favourite stories is of an American woman who went into a bookstore in South Africa and asked for books by 'African Americans' Sorry, said the assistant, we only have books by African-Africans.
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They felt completely excluded whenever the term "African American" was used, as though there was something wrong with just being black.>

You'll have to ask Afro-Americans why they prefer to be called Afro-Americans - a term that popped into favor during the Black Power struggles in the 60s - looking back to their roots and even if you live in Martinique you could be Afro-French. and there are worse terms for Afro-Americans that would really offend your friends - like many use up here in a at times racist northern Michigan - red neck country in a way.
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Old Jul 29th, 2014, 12:19 AM
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Padraig,

Miscegenation - like it!

Also agree with you re use of Anglo in article;however, it has been interesting seeing how the two sides of the atlantic interpret the word.
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Old Jul 29th, 2014, 02:43 AM
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Amazing how one word causes such an uproar.

"Anglo" for for the English-speaking is the same

- as "Gypsy" for the people who call themselves "Roma"
- as "Eskimo" for those who call themselves "inuit"
- as "Germans" for "Deutsche"

"Anglo" is heavily used in Latin America and probably a little friendlier than "Gringo".

Besides, from a European perspective, the article is quite right. The only error is that "grand cru classé" is a category that you find mainly in Bordeaux but not in other regions (maybe with a very few exceptions).

And I would add that the grand red wines need many years to mature before they become drinkable.
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Old Jul 29th, 2014, 03:54 AM
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I understand that a Caeser saw one of us in the slave market and called us "Angels", what more can I say.
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Old Jul 29th, 2014, 09:26 AM
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The Caesar saw you in Germania and called you "Anglii" and hired you as soldiers for his troups in Britannia which became to be called "England", while in Germany, where the rest of your ancestors stayed, many towns are called "-engel".

Although "Engel" means "angel", the etymology is quite different. Although Caeser (in fact, it was Tacitus) might have had sufficient irony to call you "angels". Probably a direct line to an infamous motorbikers club.
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Old Jul 30th, 2014, 05:53 AM
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It was Pope Gregory the Great: Non Angli sed angeli.
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