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DebitNM Sep 29th, 2014 01:34 PM

Easyjet; Vueling; Ryanair "Carryon" Question
 
Will we be able to carry this cart on with 2 "legal" / qualifying carry on bags??

http://www.walmart.com/ip/TravelKart...Black/13029467

We will bungee it onto one of the carry ons.

Christina Sep 29th, 2014 01:45 PM

no, you are allowed one piece of cabin baggage, period. The only exception is if you have a cane or some bag you bought in duty free that they deliver to the plane. YOu are not even allowed a purse in addition to another carryon.

I presume you mean will you be allowed to carry that one free? no, you'll hvae to pay to check one of those bags if you want to carry that onboard. Of course, if you are attaching it to the carryon and it still is within the size limits, it should be ago. But just attaching a piece of luggage to another one doesn't give you more allowances outside the size limits. If you can, put it in a carryon, it says it is 20x12x3 inches. YOu probalby need a soft sided one for that. But I suspect you won't have extra space and you want to get away with paying for the bag check. It's not that much, I always do.

Christina Sep 29th, 2014 01:45 PM

oh, sorry I was talking about Easyjet, don't know the other airlines standards.

RM67 Sep 29th, 2014 02:02 PM

Ryanair allow two pieces in the cabin now - basically one carry on case and one smaller bag such as a handbag or laptop case or camera bag. There are dimensions listed on the website. You need to check all three dimensions carefully - I often see people talking about 19, 20 or 21 inch length cases as if that will suffice, but the depth is the measurement that is smaller than other airlines allow and may catch you out. Whatever size your cases I cannot see any sort of cart being allowed.

RM67 Sep 29th, 2014 02:11 PM

Not to mention the extra weight....Ryanair allow 10kg so even if you could get the trolley in the bin with case attached (which I doubt) you'd be losing a fair bit of your allowance. I'd be willing to bet that would have to be checked into the hold.

RM67 Sep 29th, 2014 02:14 PM

From the website...

One cabin bag weighing up to 10 kg with maximum dimensions of 55cm x 40cm x 20cm, plus 1 small bag up to 35 x 20 x 20 cms may be carried per passenger*.

DebitNM Sep 29th, 2014 02:22 PM

The measurements for the cart/trolley are well below the measurements for the bag allowance as is the bag itself. The carryon won't weigh near 10 kg. I don't think it will fit in the bag.

We have paid for checked bag but putting it IN the checked defeats the purpose; i.e., using it to get from check bag drop to plane.

Dukey1 Sep 29th, 2014 04:23 PM

I think perhaps you need to consider the possibility of paying for yet another checked bag. How much money did you SAVE onb this flight?

DebitNM Sep 29th, 2014 04:28 PM

We have 3 flights [one on each carrier] over the course of a a couple of weeks. We have 2 carryons besides the 2 checked bags, so it adds up if you add on checked bag fees for 2 more bags on the 3 flights. And the carryons' have stuff in them that we prefer to keep with us.

RM67 Sep 30th, 2014 02:51 AM

If they decide the cart is a separate item you are in trouble because it exceeds the dimensions of the second handbag type item allowed by quite some margin.

Even if they don't, are your carry on bags still going to fit into the test bin given that you are adding 3 inches in depth by sticking them on a trolley?

Tulips Sep 30th, 2014 03:24 AM

Wouldn't it be easier to get a carry-on with wheels?

Easyjet are very strict about handluggage sizes, the times I have flown with them. Strictly one item only.

sparkchaser Sep 30th, 2014 03:25 AM

<i>Wouldn't it be easier to get a carry-on with wheels? </i>

If you're looking to maximize what you carry on, wheels add weight.

hetismij2 Sep 30th, 2014 04:06 AM

It depends a lot on the gate agent but they could see the cart as a second item. My son had something similar with his sleeping roll strapped to his small rucksack. Even though the whole thing fit in the frame with ease it was deemed to be two items. He ditched his sleeping roll rather than pay the extra.

sparkchaser Sep 30th, 2014 04:13 AM

Even if you are 100% compliant to the measurements and terms, it's still up to the gate agent whether or not you can take it aboard. I have two musician friends who were traveling with their guitar and fiddle. They bought "seats" for their instruments just like you are supposed to but they were not permitted to bring the instruments on board. This was escalated up to the pilot who also said no instruments on board so instead of their instruments riding with them in the cabin, they had to check them. The fiddle survived but the guitar suffered some slight damage.

That uncertainty on enforcement is (one of) the price you pay with low cost carriers.

Odin Sep 30th, 2014 05:07 AM

I do not believe you will have an issue with a luggage trolley. I think there is much worrying about nothing. I've used the trolleys several times and have lost most of them by forgetting them in the overhead.

Sojourntraveller Sep 30th, 2014 09:18 AM

I didn't realize people still used such things. So you have a carry-on bag that is too heavy to carry and which has no wheels. You plan to use this set of wheels to wheel your carry-on bag from check-in to the plane. Is that correct? "using it to get from check bag drop to plane."

My answer would be to plan on carrying onboard no more than you can comfortably carry. Do you have a physical disability which precludes you from carrying your carry-on bag? In that case, why do you have a carry-on bag without wheels?

I'm actually trying to picture your scenario but something is missing in the picture.

suze Sep 30th, 2014 10:36 AM

I'm also missing the logic here. Have you used this cart before?

To me it looks like truly a pain, instead of just normal lightweight carryon bags w/ wheels builtin.

lincasanova Sep 30th, 2014 12:06 PM

Do not count on being able to take this on the Ryanair flight for sure.. unless it is completely attached to the bag itself as you suggest, and still fits into luggage bin measuring that will be at the gate before you board. Purse must also fit into the new small bin. No ifs ands or buts. .. and I'm still not SURE.. like mentioned.. it may depend on gate agent if the notice.

Before boarding a Ryanair flight is actually quite entertaining as passengers visually check out people's luggage imagining whose is now bulging and over- stuffed and no longer fits in bin.( most common problem as measurements are fine but bulging ruins the plan)... . who has protruding item out of their handbag and will not be allowed, etc. etc. Always a few people who scramble to try to get legal as they board and are pulled aside.

It's not funny when it's you. 40E at gate ..

Christina Sep 30th, 2014 12:21 PM

<<That uncertainty on enforcement is (one of) the price you pay with low cost carriers>>

No, it doesn't, I've found uncertainly about enforcement to be worse among non-low cost carriers, not the low cost ones. The issue is with something unusual like this, I imagine you can't predict perfectly. All I know is in theory, it's an extra item and is not allowed. And I have found them enforcing that rigorously at Easyjet boarding gates, if someone has two items on them, they tell them they must check one if the other one doesn't fit into one. I've seen women frantically trying to stuff a huge "purse" inside their carryon which was already bursting at the seams. Some people just don't read the rules, they are clearly when you buy the ticket.

I just pay for checking in advance, it is a heck of a lot cheaper and the airfare on Easyjet is still far lower than a major carrier with that fee. If I were doing local weekend jaunts, I could get by with only carryon, of course.

I used to have one of those luggage carriers a million years ago before they invented wheeled luggage (someone should have gotten the Nobel for that one). I still have it and it has come in handy once in a while for carting something major to my car if I need to take it someplace to repair or the dump.

Those carriers were a pain, it's much easier to have wheeled luggage. Of course, if you don't mind the risk of losing it, you can try and hope for the best. I imagine you wouldn't want to bag the gate charge to check one bag instead of forfeiting it.

DebitNM Sep 30th, 2014 01:41 PM

We got a small rolling carry on bag instead. Not worth the uncertainty. Thanks all.

Sojourntraveller Oct 1st, 2014 08:53 AM

LOL, well now all you have to do is make sure your new bag complies with the rules for size and weight DebitNM.

More and more airlines are now charging for checked bags. As a result more and more people are now trying to travel carry-on only. No suprise there. However as anyone could predict, that means more and more people are trying to carry on a bag that doesn't meet the rules for size and weight. Particularly weight. Read this article on Air Canada.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle20853758/

We can expect that checking carry-on bags for size and weight compliance will become the norm. There are going to be a lot of suprised tourists when they discover that where they are allowed to carry-on 40 lbs. on a US airline or 22 lbs. on a Canadian airline, there are airlines out there with an 11 lb. limit for carry-on and that 15 lbs. is a common limit for European and Asian airlines.

I can see a lot of tourists thinking, 'we'll go carry-on only and avoid the checked bag charge' but not realizing that the weight limits vary far more than the size limits do.

Sojourntraveller Oct 1st, 2014 08:53 AM

http://flyingwithfish.boardingarea.c...orld-airlines/

DebitNM Oct 1st, 2014 09:29 AM

Yikes! And the wonderful bag I found is too wide due to the wheels!

The link to 65 airlines is interesting but it is 5 years old and I fear out of date. It doesn't even have Vueling and Ryanair allows 2 now and easyjet is different now too. Thanks anyway :o)

Sojourntraveller Oct 1st, 2014 01:36 PM

Those who sell bags usually do not include the wheels in their dimensions. They give you the dimensions of the BAG. You need to check bag dimensions for yourself in a store.

People also go over by packing the bag so full it 'bulges'.

The list was to let people see the weight and size restrictions vary by airline. You have to check for every airline you will use to see if a bag will pass restrictions or not.

To pass ALL carry-on restrictions you need a bag that's about the size of a 'daypack' and a total weight under 9 lbs.

lincasanova Oct 1st, 2014 01:50 PM

At CDG there was even a digital scale at SECURITY.. unreal.

sparkchaser Oct 1st, 2014 10:05 PM

<i>At CDG there was even a digital scale at SECURITY.</i>

That's actually a really good place to put a scale: it's in a location that is central and everyone will have to pass and if your bag is too heavy, you now know and can address it before getting to the sterile side of the airport.

lincasanova Oct 1st, 2014 10:42 PM

I know... but I was surprised it was manned and they were checking people there.. not for your use necessarily, but the one who checks a boarding pass before security was in charge of that.

sparkchaser Oct 1st, 2014 10:45 PM

That's one way to avoid the "well I didn't know my bag was overweight" excuse.

lincasanova Oct 2nd, 2014 12:13 AM

AF and Air Europe were really checking carry-on weight with every passenger at counter.

sparkchaser Oct 2nd, 2014 12:19 AM

Good. I'd also like to see the 1 carry-on plus 1 personal item enforced as well.

Sojourntraveller Oct 3rd, 2014 07:51 AM

With some airlines sparkchaser, one carry-on means ONE. No 'personal item' in addition at all. So a typical laptop bag is your 'one' carry-on item as is a woman's handbag.


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