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klondike Oct 20th, 2005 11:19 PM

the word <duvet> is the actual French word for down, as in the soft baby fluff on the chicks. So my way of thinking is a duvet = an eiderdown, except maybe eider is a particular type of bird? It must have feathers in it to qualify technically, would it not? It is NOT a comforter. A comforter is filled with solid sheets of material (synthetic or natural) or batiqueing. Non? I LOVE my duvet and will never go back to heavy blankets/comforter again.

GSteed Oct 20th, 2005 11:27 PM

Bed coverings (whatever) are actually body coverings and are meant to maintain comfortable body temperatures. Mattress pads can be used to decrease heat loss; and a requirement for heavier top covers. Electric mattress pads increase bed comfort as they keep the whole mattress structure warm. A prime reason for sheets (and night clothes) is to keep the blankets, duvet or whatever clean. Sheets are easier to wash than blankets! (or duvets/comforters. Check your next hotel; do they change the sheets every day or every stay? Next question: Quilt or comforter?

sheila Oct 20th, 2005 11:40 PM

What on earth is a comforter? A quilt?

MissPrism Oct 21st, 2005 12:02 AM

Sheila, I think that a comforter is what our grannies called an eiderdown.
My grandma had one. It was a bit like a duvet but sewn into its cover.

I imagine that Americans when they first met a duvet, tried to think of the closest thing to it at home.

A duvet shouldn't be used with a top sheet because the idea is that the feathers settle around you to keep you warm.
With a sheet, it is just an eiderdown.
You treat it rather like a pillow and change the cover when you change the pillowslips.
I'm just trying to remember when duvets reached the UK. We have certainly had them for years and blankets are very rarely used nowadays.

I have a nice story, I think from Bill Oddie (TV naturalist).
He said that he was on a nature walk with a party when a little boy spotted a group of eider ducks.
He shouted, "Mum, look, duvet ducks!"

SiobhanP Oct 21st, 2005 12:15 AM

I have a super king (King in the U.S.) feather duvet. It is in 2 pieces that snal together so in the summer I use one and the winter I take out the other half for a warm double...don't know the tog. (I also have the best thing to change the duvet that I found in Bed and Bath in the U.S., duvet clips that attach to the corners and are padded. When I change the duvet I use thes and they keep it from slipping inside the cover. Great invention!

kappa Oct 21st, 2005 12:33 AM

Has everybody agreed to pronounce the word like "dooveh" so far? Then I am the first to say agaist it. As somebody metioned, it's a French word, then the French pronouciation is like "dewveh". American might like to pronouce "doovAY", that's another matter.

kappa Oct 21st, 2005 12:41 AM

And you don't want to sleep under any type of duvet in summer. I have 2-layer (called 4 seasons)type. You can use one layer in warmer seasons but even this is too warm in summer unless you are high up in the mountain areas. I live in Geneva and a thin sheet is enough in mid-summer (and no pyjamas).

kappa Oct 21st, 2005 12:46 AM

I think Siobhan has the same type (4 seasons) of duvet as mine. If she can sleep in one layer of it, Ireland must be much cooler in summer than Geneva, Switzerland.

SiobhanP Oct 21st, 2005 12:51 AM

It never gets too hot here and is cool in summer mornings so it is perfect in one layer for the summer. I always leave a window slighly open so it get cooler as well.

hanl Oct 21st, 2005 12:52 AM

As Klondike says, <i>duvet</i> is French for down. The French for duvet, as in the bed covering, is <i>couette</i>.
Meanwhile, the French word <i>&eacute;dredon</i> derives from the English word eiderdown and refers to that type of quilt.

Personally I can't stand sleeping in beds made up with sheets + blankets (especially those horrible scratchy wool blankets that feel so unpleasant against the skin). Making the bed takes forever and I hate that constricted, tucked in feeling. Much prefer a duvet, although I think that changing the cover should be made an Olympic event.

eigasuki Oct 21st, 2005 01:01 AM

Just to add some variation, here in Australia we call it a doona or sometimes a continental quilt. Pretentious people call it a duvet.
i think IKea can take the credit for their surpassing the use of blankets - and the cost of wool.

I would call a comforter a padded decorative quilt - like a bedspread, only used with a skirt rather than floor length. It's usually sold with matching pillow shams.

Maria_H Oct 21st, 2005 02:41 AM

I have never heard a quilt called a &quot;comforter&quot; in the UK. Like others, we had sheets and blankets, topped with a quilt as children - heavy and restricting. Then &quot;continental quilts&quot; were introduced - we didn't call them duvets at first, this being a strange foreign word!

My parents told me that when they lived in Czechoslovakia, when they were first married, they had a single goose down quilt each, even on a double bed, which you then snuggled into. The goose down ones are the best, very warm but light.

PatrickLondon Oct 21st, 2005 03:44 AM

For what it's worth, &quot;duvet&quot; is French for down (as in eider+down), which would have been the highest quality feather-filler.

An eiderdown (bedding), which becomes &eacute;dredon in French, to me means something that's barely wider than the top surface of the bed and therefore you need the top sheets to go with it; whereas a duvet is wide enough to hang over the sides and keep you warm enough on its own.

And by chance, not long after discovering the Australian name 'doona' for it, I saw a TV programme where a subtitled Dane used a word sounding almost exactly the same to mean a duvet. So the idea presumably arrived in Australia from Denmark, whereas in Britain it came via French.

But it's what Americans mean by a comforter, I think - though to me, a comforter sounds like a person. But I won't go there.

hanl Oct 21st, 2005 03:53 AM

I've just remembered that when we first got duvets for the beds (in Scotland), we called them &quot;downies&quot;.

Kate Oct 21st, 2005 04:52 AM

I remember that my sister was the first in our household to get a 'continental quilt' back in the 70s. My brother and I were very bitter about it, and always fought over who would take her bed when she was away.

Can't stand sheets and blankets - feel like I've been mummified.

Kate
London

Maria_H Oct 21st, 2005 05:06 AM

Found this definition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duvet

Quote:

&quot;In eastern Australia it is called a &quot;Doona&quot;, from a trademarked brand name derived from the Old Norse dunn meaning &quot;down feathers&quot;.&quot;

To me an eiderdown was the thin, patterned quilt, with no over-hang, that sat on top of the sheets and blankets when I was a child.

jsmith Oct 21st, 2005 05:50 AM

Thank you all for a sleepless night as I pondered the intricacies of bedding. Now, the use of that term can lead to a whole new revelation of likes and dislikes. And you haven't even started on the preferences of percale versus flannel for sheets and pillowcases and the appropriate times to switch much like &quot;no white shoes after labor day&quot;? Should the opening for the duvet cover be at the top or bottom or even on the side? What does one do, for example, if there is disagreement between partners? God, so many decisions. I dread another sleepless night.

parisnow Oct 21st, 2005 05:53 AM

Since I grew up a few miles from the &quot;Company Store&quot;, I have always had a duvet. Duvets are made up of feather and down. The higher the percentage of down the more expensive the duvet will be and normally lighter(poofy)in weight. But the lighter weight has nothing to do with the warmth. I use a duvet in the chilly winters. In the summer, I use a down filled blanket that actually keeps me cool. If used correctly, they regulate your own body heat since it is all natural and not synthetic. I also have a featherbed with cover that I place under the fitted sheets. But after my trip to Germany and the Hilton in Paris, I want the European version for the long cold Chicago winters. I have looked for them at the major Department stores in Paris but they have the same style that is sold in the states. Anyone know where to find the style Smalti described?

BTilke Oct 21st, 2005 12:41 PM

We are living with both options now...at our apt in Brussels we have a duvet (in the American sense) over a comforter, but in the UK, we have a beautiful big, heavy quilt we bought at the Frog Hollow State Craft Center in Middlebury, VT--with a top sheet, tucked in at the bottom. We can go either way and sleep just as well with one or the other as long as we have big comfy pillows (I LOVE those oversized rectangular Swiss pillows...mmmm).
When it comes to duvet closures, I like the zipper ones simply because when I wash them, I zip it shut. The ones I can't close all the way invariably &quot;swallow&quot; the pillow cases and I forget to fish them out before drying the load, so they don't dry properly.

Tulips, if you come back to this thread, I saw today that your favorite store--Chine--on the Avenue Louise is seeking a part-time salesperson who can speak French and Dutch. Tempted? Think of that nice big employee discount...

SeaUrchin Oct 21st, 2005 01:26 PM

Btilke, where did you find a zippered cover? Mine have all been with ties or buttons.


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