Drugs in Europe

Feb 13th, 2007, 11:33 AM
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artlover, why is stuff more potent in Amsterdam?
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Feb 13th, 2007, 02:35 PM
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Good question. I don't know. Maybe because it's legal they can have "quality control"?

(Come to think of it, it was stronger in Jamacia too )
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Feb 13th, 2007, 02:42 PM
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Most sold in Europe is now what is called 'skunk', which is a hell of a lot stronger than old fashioned dope.

Different countries have different attitudes. I think it would be quite difficult for a traveller/stranger to buy any apart from in Amsterdam, even if it is easily accessible for locals. It is still illegal to deal it even in countries, like the UK, where it has been downgraded and the police turn a blind eye to smokers who stick to their own property.
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Feb 13th, 2007, 03:55 PM
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cruzan19 - DO NOT travel outside of the Netherlands with any kind of controlled substance. It is not worth the risk. Although most people think that marijuana is legal in the Netherlands, it is NOT. It is, however, tolerated, and should only be used with discretion - in a coffeeshop or behind closed doors.

I think it would be quite difficult for a traveller/stranger to buy any apart from in Amsterdam

My husband and I have visited coffeeshops in Haarlem (yeah Willie Wortel), Leiden, Scheveningen, Rotterdam (a shout out to our favorite "dealer", Willem), Utrecht, Arnhem, Amersfoort, & Maastricht.

I have also heard that Bavaria is very conservative and strict with their drugs laws, so I would not attempt to try to score anything there.

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Feb 13th, 2007, 03:56 PM
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Some people here on this board should smoke more.

The average age here is ancient. Do y'all not remember woodstock and all that?

Having said the above, it seems that more people on this board get upset about alcohol or trainers than a bit of weed.

Anyway, I got offered more drugs in Canada and the US than ever here in Europe. I think half of Montreal is permanantly stoned. Great people. Very laid back. Strange French tho'.
Feb 13th, 2007, 04:07 PM
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If you can remember Woodstock, you weren't there.
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Feb 13th, 2007, 04:22 PM
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<<And people walk down the streets in Switzerland smoking pot all the time.>>

Beaupeep~~ May I ask where in Switzerland? I've spent quite a bit of time there and (unfortunately) did not find that to be true at all... ever.
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Feb 13th, 2007, 08:57 PM
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It was definitely very available in Basel & Lucerne when I was there as a teenager though I didn't do any, honestly and categorically. It often came into conversations among the teens there whenever a new shipment came to town. The kids who got busted were only sentenced to get free consultation/treatment on "how to quit" from the local hospital.
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Feb 13th, 2007, 09:05 PM
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suze, I live in Lausanne. Near Place Riponne / Place St-Laurent, the haven for the druggies here.
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Feb 13th, 2007, 09:56 PM
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Hi Beaupeep,

I've heard that Lausanne and the area has a more laid-back tolerance to soft drugs.

People used to smoke pot in the smoking compartments on the train. Wasn't allowed but they still did it. Luckily, all smoking is banned.

I was in Einsiedeln at the playground next to the monastary with my kids and a teenager was smoking pot. Talking about taking God's air in vain.

In my area, you can smell pot every once in a while when a bunch of older teenagers get together.

I live in a small village and right now our bigger problem is alcohol. Fourteen year old kids come from afar with their mopeds and meet in at the local playground. They bring beer and red bull and get quite plastered. One kid fell off his moped on the home and the ambulance was called because he was in such a drunken stupor. Our biggest local problem is young kids and alcohol.
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Feb 13th, 2007, 11:21 PM
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We didn't know when we rented the apt about the area's reputation and actually saw people shooting up in our stairwells a few times until the plaza in front of McDonald's collapsed while the Métro was being rebuilt and they moved the druggies about 2 blocks away. I suppose the officials were worried about them falling into the hole while intoxicated.

Now we don't see them in our building but they smoke marijuana in public and sometimes even shoot up in public! We keep the apartment because it is dirt cheap and now we don't have the problem of them coming in anymore.
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Feb 14th, 2007, 01:02 AM
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LucieV - It is more potent in Amsterdam because it is often "Nederwiet". Home grown stuff, which for some reason is sronger. Being an old fogie, who doesn't remember Woodstock (not that old a fogie) I can't confirm this though. And I'm not going to ask my kids who could!
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Feb 14th, 2007, 03:48 AM
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The Dutch weed is stronger as it has been grown that way - the growers have developed hybrids with very high THC levels (the bit that makes you stoned). They have also reduced teh canabinoid level (the bit that makes you dopey).

If you aren't used to it the effect is closer to mushroooms or even acid than plain old red leb.

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Feb 14th, 2007, 03:54 AM
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Why is pot more potent in Amsterdam?

The marijuana grown in the Netherlands is cultivated and handled with care, so you don't loose all the cannabinoids off of the bud, which is what gives you the buzz. When pot is compressed into "bricks" for shipping, it diminishes the potency.

Plus, the art of cultivating marijuana is now down to a science, developing new varieties within the indica and sativa strains. It certainly has come a long way since George Washington first notated his experiment of growing sinsemilla (without seeds).

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>Our biggest local problem is young kids and alcohol. <

You're lucky. In the US, the biggest problem is Meth.

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