DRIVING PARIS TO MILAN

Old Aug 17th, 2005, 02:35 AM
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Don't worry about the posts by Patrick (in particular) and Rex - it seems they think they own the forum and get rude to people like francophile03 who disagree with that bossy boots approach. Her comments seemed spot on to me.
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Old Aug 17th, 2005, 04:59 AM
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Hi J,

Can you not take the train to Auxerre and pick up your car there?

See www.viamichelin.com and www.mappy.com for driving directions and times.

Choose "without tolls".

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Old Aug 18th, 2005, 05:14 AM
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Cheers Faux and thanks for the words of support and encouragement. Frankly, I have enjoyed the debate and I don't take any of it seriously. The reason I am here is to glean some of the wonderful advice that is available from this forum. Surely, it is all in good fun. Do any of you know about 'Rule #6"? It's one that I live by.

Will think about changing our car pick up from Paris to Orly or Auxerre. Did here that there was a great Chateau to see in Melun - apparently the original blueprint for Versailles. Can anyone recommend it?

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Old Aug 18th, 2005, 06:21 AM
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Hey jenniw, Paris and Milan sound like a nice itinerary. You're sure to have a great trip. You say you have a good sense of humor, but it's still really sad that a couple of self-righteous members feel the need to be bullies.
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Old Aug 18th, 2005, 08:12 AM
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Okay, Jenni - I'll bite. What's Rule #6?
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Old Aug 18th, 2005, 08:44 AM
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The chateau is Vaux-le-Vicomte, defintiely worth a visit; and it is a little out of the way, so a car is a good thing to have.
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Old Aug 18th, 2005, 09:54 AM
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Unlikely that this is what was meant by "Rule #6", but these are good rules:

http://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html
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Old Aug 18th, 2005, 10:19 AM
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"You say you have a good sense of humor, but it's still really sad that a couple of self-righteous members feel the need to be bullies."

Eldon, I'm really surprised that you are calling francophile a bully!

It's clear you didn't mean Rex or myself, because NOBODY in their right mind could call those posts "bullying". The first one "bullying" anyone was francophile indicating that no one has the right to try to help a new poster. If anyone can't see that Rex's post was meant to be helpful, then heaven help them. Then francophile tried to "bully" me by suggesting that putting a word in all caps for emphasis was the same as doing an entire post in caps. Huh? How silly is that?

What I'd like to know is why some people resent any attempt to politely (yes the suggestion above was polite) help a new poster post more successfully? Again, I think the answer became rather clear with one of francophile's posts above in which it was revealed that the real problem wasn't Rex's post, but rather the fact that is was made by him. He could have merely posted "welcome to Fodor's" and he would have been accused of being rude! The issue isn't WHAT was said, but rather WHOM it was said by. How sad is that? Why would someone think it is OK to "bully" posters who are only trying to help? Huh, eldon and Faux? You both really seem to be saying "ignore those who are trying to teach you a better way to use this forum". Do you both also beat up on cub scouts who try to help an old lady across the street? Why is trying to help considered "bullying" or "being rude"?

Incidentally, some of you may notice that jenniw has posted a newer post on another topic. I answered her and also thanked her for taking suggestions here and posting it properly. I also welcomed her to Fodors. Some of you would have preferred that she not be told about the caps issue and her new post would have been done the same way. In fact all her future posts would probably have been in all caps. Why in the world would you WANT her to continue posting in all caps? And how would you expect she not do it, unless someone explained why it is best not to? That was the purpose of Rex's post and it was successful. Why not accept it as what it was -- a good suggestion to a new poster?

On the other hand since some of you seem to actually prefer posts written in all caps and resent the idea that they would be better if NOT in all caps, then I guess my comments are falling on deaf ears. It's pretty hard to explain something like this to someone who really thinks that entire posts are best if done in ALL CAPS.
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Old Aug 18th, 2005, 12:31 PM
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Eh??? Yikes! You seem to be really stressed out. Have no idea what you're ranting about, Patrick.
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Old Aug 18th, 2005, 01:11 PM
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Yes, I understand that. It would take a minimal amount of intelligence to do so, so I'm not surprised you don't understand.

Incidentally, I'm impressed that you went to the effort of registering on Fodors just today to make your first post on a thread saying simply "never trust a travel agent" and then coming here to make the silly post you did. Welcome to Fodors. You will be a valuable asset to us all. Of course, I can only assume you are an "old time" poster who is too cowardly to make all posts under the same name, so you invented this one to be nasty with. Congratulations, that must have really taken all the intelligence you could muster.

I know you won't understand this, but the basic point of my post above was that you refer to a couple of "self righteous members who feel the need to be bullies" by making your own self righteous "bullying" post. Kind of ironic. Oops, there I go. I'm sure you don't know what ironic means.
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