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Driving Paris to Bern: via A6 or A5 with stop at Vaux le Vicomte?

Driving Paris to Bern: via A6 or A5 with stop at Vaux le Vicomte?

Jan 18th, 2016, 10:09 AM
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Thanks Kerouac. The A5 it is.
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Jan 18th, 2016, 10:30 AM
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You need a vignette in order to drive on the motorway in Switzerland. There would be no reason for French rental cars to have one. It costs 40 Swiss francs. You can order it beforehand, or buy one at the border.

So your husband will drive for more than 6 hours with just a quick rest stop, and you think that is safer than the train?
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Jan 18th, 2016, 10:52 AM
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Tulips- I knew about needing a vignette, just unsure about whether or not Hertz will provide it. If not, we will purchase it ourselves.

Yes, people who live in the area that I do are quite accustomed to long drives. We drive 11 hours to a North Carolina island nearly every summer, and only make 2 brief stops on the way to use the restroom and get fast food. It's a pretty common thing. He's a safe driver and 6 hours with one stop is easy by our standards. I used to drive home 6 hours from college for the weekend by myself, only stopping once.

And the reason I am avoiding trains is suicide bombers, not travel fatigue.
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Jan 18th, 2016, 11:39 AM
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I am not going to sway you with your decision. But, I am not sure you have driven in Europe before. In case you have not thought about them, there are several differences that seem to catch US drivers unexpectedly. Others can fill out details if you are not sure.

Some highway and other traffic maneuvers legal in the US are illegal in Europe.

Both France and Switzerland use high-tech traffic rule enforcement devices. Just because you were not stopped does not mean you have not violated traffic rules. Fines plus processing fees from your rental company would arrive after your return.

Speed limit enforcement is more strict and mechanically enforced. If you see "30kmh," they really mean it starting at that sign. The speed limits can be implied and not explicitly stated.

Highway toll booths take different types of payments or passes. Use the toll booth matching the type of payments you plan to use.

If you need to gas up, unless you have a real CHIP and PIN credit card, stick to gas stations with persons and not automated machines.

It seems you are assuming: 1 hour driving in US = 1 hour driving in Europe. This is probably true even for some first timers or those posters living in Europe or have driven extensively in Europe.
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Jan 18th, 2016, 12:17 PM
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Greg- many thanks the information. Very helpful! We are not speedy drivers but I'll be sure that my husband stays under the speed limit.

I have driven in Europe- but it's been 20 years!

The actual driving time in hours (6:45) is just what I looked up on viamichelin.com.

I do have a chip and pin credit card.

Thanks for your help!
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Jan 18th, 2016, 12:33 PM
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Also- if I want to buy the vignettes in advance, does anyone know if I can buy them online?
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Jan 18th, 2016, 12:35 PM
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When I say real CHIP and PIN credit card, I am referring to the cards that can complete unattended transactions using PIN as an authorization. While there are many U.S. credit cards with CHIPS and also have PINs, they are incapable of executing totally unattended purchase authorizations needed at gas pumps as well as other machines requiring PIN authorizations.

I have many U.S. cards with CHIPs, and they have PINs, but those PINs are usable only at ATMs for doing dreaded cash advances. I have only one card that can execute totally PIN based unattended purchases.
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Jan 18th, 2016, 01:06 PM
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Ok Greg, thanks for clarifying. We'll look for attended gas stations in that case.
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Jan 18th, 2016, 01:32 PM
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And there have been how many suicide bombers on trains in Europe recently?
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Jan 18th, 2016, 01:39 PM
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-terror-attack

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Jan 18th, 2016, 01:41 PM
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http://www.india.com/news/world/pari...-alert-704546/

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Jan 18th, 2016, 01:43 PM
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http://www.news.com.au/world/bomb-th...a969251117d962

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Jan 18th, 2016, 01:44 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/22/europe...ooting-heroes/

Thalys train attack August.
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Jan 18th, 2016, 01:45 PM
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Above posts in response to St. Cirq's question. Not all suicide bombers, but all terrorism on trains.
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Jan 18th, 2016, 01:49 PM
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Without clicking on any of those tired old links, I can confirm that there were far fewer deaths than in traffic accidents.

When safety is a concern, I always take the train over either air or road travel. If "brubenow" were to post links to traffic accidents in France, he/she would have to spend all night doing so.
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Jan 18th, 2016, 02:16 PM
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It's pointless. She's made up her mind, rational or not. But as someone who lives in France, uses trains all the time, and drives a lot, I know what my preference is. I also know that one of the reasons I chose to leave the USA was completely pointless gun violence - up to something like 80 innocent people, lots of them kids, per day now.

Sounds like ill-conceived madness to me, but I hope she and her family survive this trip and have a good voyage.
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Jan 18th, 2016, 03:19 PM
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Thank you for the well wishes.

I don't deny that traffic deaths are more common than train deaths.

I'm not asking anyone to agree with me.

I'm not telling anyone to do as I do.

I'm not debating gun violence in the U.S. Or the dangers of highway driving. I'm not asking you to debate them either.

It's just a choice I have made, because I am a mother, as a direct response to recent terrorism threats (not the dangers of random travel, but targeted terrorist plots).

My original post had nothing to do with why I am choosing not to take the train. I only mentioned it because I was asked.

My original post was: the A5 or the A6?

Thanks to those who have answered, were helpful, and chose not to make judgmental remarks.
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Jan 21st, 2016, 10:20 AM
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Have a great trip. My final suggestion is when you pack the Picasso (or similar, remember you're not guaranteed you will get the specific model you requested, it might be something from the same class), take a close walk around the car to make sure that none of your luggage is visible. Press you face right against the glass to see up close whether anyone could spot your bags. And be sure to leave nothing -- English language guidebook, for example -- visible in the vehicle that would be an obvious clue that the driver and/or passengers are international visitors. Some people like to leave a local newspaper in the native language clearly visible on a seat, but that doesn't guarantee a thief will look elsewhere.
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Jan 21st, 2016, 10:33 AM
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Check the price Hertz is asking for a vignette if they provide it. Last time I rented
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Jan 21st, 2016, 10:34 AM
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I paid much more for vignette that was already on the car.
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