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the pappa May 15th, 2001 03:01 AM

dressing the kids
 
5 kids, ranging from 12 to 19....2 girls <BR>and 3 boys....suggestions for dress in <BR>France and Italy...are shorts and tank tops <BR>(no bra straps showing) ok for girls...? <BR>and shorts and tee shirts ok for the boys? <BR>Or do they need to be alittle more dressed <BR>up....? <BR>Thanks

nancy May 15th, 2001 03:35 AM

Do not know where you are going in these 2 countries, beach, cities, your our villa/apt.. <BR>My children are bringing shorts, plain tee-shirts, tank tops, <BR>But, also a couple summer dresses/skirts, and 2 "dress-up"outfits for dining out., for my daughter. <BR>My son will have 2 pr of pants that are not jeans, and 2 polo shirts, for the same reason. <BR>Remember, shorts and bare arms are not allowed at least in the Vatican, and maybe other churches , etc.

Ursula May 15th, 2001 03:44 AM

Hi pappa! <BR>Depends on when you travel. Summer months are in general hot in July/August. <BR>Depends on where you travel as well. Cities, beach areas? <BR>Depends on what kind of places you will stay? Budget or upscale? <BR> <BR>Most important, make sure they all wear good and comfortable shoes and comfortables clothes (cotton) as well.

pappa May 15th, 2001 10:26 AM

Will be in Paris for 3 days and then <BR>Venice, Tuscany and Rome for 2 1/2 weeks. Plan to visit museums and eat <BR>in the more casual places. <BR>One girl is 19, a boy and girl are 16 <BR>and then the 2 twelve year olds are boys. <BR>We won't be in luxury accommodations, <BR>just your average traveler. <BR> <BR>The info so far is helpful. Thank you.

pappa May 15th, 2001 10:27 AM

Oh...we are leaving next week, the 24th <BR>of May for 3 weeks.

nancy May 15th, 2001 11:18 AM

Don't forget the swim suits, and something with sleeves incase it is chilly at night. <BR>Question, how do you get your daughters to cover up their bra straps. <BR>My 10 yr old has informed me that no one cares if they show, and it is even the fashion!? <BR>I would have died from embarrassment when I was a young teen in the mid 60's, if my bra straps showed! <BR>Got rid of that problem when I got rid of the bra in '68 (much to my P's dismay) :-) <BR>Have a *wonderful *time with your family!! <BR>

gb May 15th, 2001 11:58 AM

Last year, showing bra straps was 'in". I have never been able to like that look. Despite that, my 16 yr. old wears the look. However, I have been able to convince her to modify the look with clear bra straps, or very colorful straps that look a little better. Personally, I would still be embarrassed. Any one- my daughters were quite comfortable and fit in with shorts and sleeveless or short sleeved tops. One daughter insistented on one pair of blue jeans (she had to carry and wash), and a pair of khaki pants. Bought a pareo there for a temporary skirt or shoulder cover-up and it worked well. Beautiful ones in Positano. Contrary to what everyone says, I saw sneakers type shoes most everywhere on different people-tourist, locals, kids, teens. I think they can wear what they wear here if they keep it "middle of the road" and modest. I did notice a lot of teen girls wore skirts instead of shorts. And capris would do fine for the girls this year.

Ursula May 15th, 2001 12:01 PM

pappa hi again! Just a little weather update from Central Europe (Switzerland): <BR> <BR>After a magnificent weekend all over, bad wheather has returned and will last until next Sunday at least (as if we hadn't had enough..)! <BR>My 19-year old niece is in Paris right now and she just sent a message that weather is on the bad side. <BR>So, no need toworry about bra straps and bring t-shirts with small sleeves and layers in case of.....rain and cold. <BR>In Italy, it might be warmer, but not yet hot, hot, hot! <BR>

StCirq May 15th, 2001 06:21 PM

My 14-year-old will wear essentially the same clothes she wears at home in Europe this summer, except that she'll have a wrap-around skirt in her purse/backpack (hasn't decided yet which she'll carry) to put on for churches and other places where there's a dress code. She'll have capri pants (2 pairs), one pair of khaki shorts, one sleeveless dress, a bunch of plain tops, plus a long-sleeved top in case of cold weather, plus a sweater that goes well with the wrap-around skirt. That's about it, apart from underwear, socks, a windbreaker/raincoat,jeans, and pajamas. From many years of experience, I'd say the ratio of tops to bottoms should be two to one. <BR>My 11-year-old boy will wear khaki shorts with polo shirts and plain T-shirts and will take one pair of long pants, either khakis or those popular pants made of microfiber with lots of pockets. <BR>For shoes, we take one pair of shoes that will serve for hiking and trekking over cobblestones (for the kids, often their indoor black soccer shoes) and one pair of more dressy shoes, often sandals or loafers. <BR>No need to panic - apart from getting into churches and other historical sites, you can wear what is comfortable.

pappa May 16th, 2001 03:31 AM

Thanks to everyone.... <BR>and as far as those bra straps...ugh! <BR>However, Eddie Bauer has all in one <BR>tank tops that have this bra thing built <BR>in and really looks like a normal tank. <BR>I got a couple of them for the 19 year <BR>old. <BR>I appreciate all your great advice... <BR>including the weather report. I hadn't <BR>really thought about it still being cold <BR>anywhere. We will pack accordingly. <BR>grazi <BR>pappa


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