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Alan Aug 19th, 1999 01:20 AM

Don't scream at me...
 
..but does anyone know of an airline which will carry me across the Atlantic and let me smoke?

frodo Aug 19th, 1999 05:07 AM

Atalia let you smoke.

Alan Aug 19th, 1999 05:22 AM

Thanks. We took what we thought was an Air France flight to New York in February but it turned out to be Continental and we couldn't smoke! I'm sure that air rage would be reduced if people were still allowed to smoke on planes!

cheryl Aug 19th, 1999 06:09 AM

My recent Alitalia flight was NON-smoking, and it was enforced, so you should ask before booking if this is a concern to you.

filthyweed Aug 19th, 1999 07:51 AM

If you insist....... <BR> <BR>I believe Turkish air -- known to be [otherwise] a great airline -- has smoking flights or sections. <BR> <BR>I just wonder how many flights are actually making it out of Istanbul just now.....those poor people!

Helen Aug 19th, 1999 08:06 AM

Alan- if you booked your trip on AF based on the notion that smoking is permitted on their planes, I would say you were misguided, on the basis of my recent experience. (AF flight, aircraft, crew, etc. -- not a smoky butt in sight. (Maybe Philip Morris should start an airline?) And don't be so sure "air rage" (is there really such a thing?) is caused by thwarted smokers -- I'm seen some pretty unpleasant scenes involving the anxious/angry ones stuck in smoky "no smoking" zones. (Cough, cough.)

martha python Aug 19th, 1999 09:20 AM

And then there are the enraged nonsmokers in the row next to the smoking section (whereever that may be--Helen's right, it's not on AF)

fowler Aug 19th, 1999 09:40 AM

And then there are the seats... the legroom.....the "food".....etc... Given that there are fewer smokers than non-smokers I seriously doubt *that* is the problem. As has been well noted on this forum the airlines treat us like cows on the way to slaughter... <BR>

HelenF Aug 19th, 1999 09:45 AM

Yeah Martha, thanks, that's what I was trying to say. I guess I didn't make it clear to which "ones" I was referring. I meant the ones like me, in the completely non-smoking AF departure lounge at JFK, having to dodge the smoke from the nervous Frenchman who was pacing nearby.

martha python Aug 19th, 1999 09:53 AM

Maybe I just can't read well. <BR>Do you suppose it's bad form to hand a box of nicotine patches to tightly wound smokers? "Slap a coupla these babies on yerself and put out the butt, monsieur."

nickie Aug 19th, 1999 02:29 PM

Isn't it funny how this subject makes some otherwise very nice people so rabid? It's become one of the things you don't debate, like religion and politics, with any hope of changing another's mind. In answer to your question, Alan, Aeroflot still allows smoking. I think they fly out of both coasts, and maybe New York, but I'm guessing.

nj Aug 19th, 1999 05:23 PM

Which is the greater hazard to one's health....smoking or flying Aeroflot (a/k/a Aeroflop)? Just wondering.....

Ko Aug 19th, 1999 10:36 PM

Aeroflop??? NJ do you know what are you talking about? Did you ever flopped with its planes? Or do you know about any crashes of them? I personally have flown by Aeroflot several times and so far my only bad experience was to sit in a smoking row (I'm a non-smoker) during a trans-atlantic flight. Well, then it was not funny for me and I did wish it would be a non-smoking flight.

Peter Aug 20th, 1999 06:40 AM

I agree with you Ko. I also flown Aeroflot and found it much better then ie British Air. Legroom was very good, seats had adjustments that you could control the angles of your back and seat. Headrests had adjustable sides so your head did not end up on someone's shoulder when you slept. Service was great and very pleasant food was great and plane was latest 777. And their last 4 rows are smoking section, so if smoke bothers someone they should stay away from the back sections (crew is also very understanding and will move you or switch you with someone that is willing to sit there).

Jeanie Aug 20th, 1999 11:05 AM

We flew Iberia a few months ago and smoking was allowed. Good for you, bad for me. Just thought I should mention it since no one else has brought up Iberia so far.

joelle Aug 25th, 1999 12:20 AM

I confirm that Air France has been forbidding smoking on all flights (short and long haul) since last year... <BR>


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