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Does anyone know Leverkeusen? If so help a cluless football fan!

Nov 28th, 2006, 11:05 AM
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That chip is still there, just six inches below my left ear.
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Nov 28th, 2006, 11:42 AM
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>thanks - one more Q - is this the main team for Cologne/Dusseldorf area, or what is their normal catchment - just the [Leverkusen] area?

Bayer Leverkusen, as the name suggests, is not the "town" team but de facto team of the Bayer company. Which has more than enough money, and besides is the only raison d'etre of Leverkusen itself.

>Seems weird such a small town would have a world-class football team?

1) not so small (about 200000 inhabitants), and
2) with the money of Bayer AG (one of the biggest pharmaceutic companies of Europe) behind them it would be hard NOT to have a world class team.
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Nov 28th, 2006, 12:15 PM
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Umm... money?

I'm saying nothing.
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Nov 28th, 2006, 01:15 PM
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>Umm... money?

I'm saying nothing.

Why?
Do ManU or Arsenal players grow on trees, without any financial input?
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Dec 4th, 2006, 03:17 AM
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Now I need help on our next foreign trip - Cardiff!

Actually I think Cardiff is a trip too far given the sort of spurs fans who will make the trip anmd the kind of Cardiff fans who will be waiting to meet them.


ps I would,'t have been seen dead in the Royal Oak. I was always a Black Boy sort of chap. (Which for those not from Winchester isn't quite as bad as it sounds)
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Dec 4th, 2006, 09:35 AM
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I was once threatened by a Welsh skinhead:

"I'll be havin you look you see"

I wasn't very frightened.

Round a few corners from the Black Boy, it appears it is still legal to shoot a Welshman with a bow and arrow within the grounds of the cathedral.
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Dec 4th, 2006, 09:47 AM
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So just when is this epic Spurs-Cardiff match? All Amerika wants to know! Go Spurs!
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Dec 5th, 2006, 05:51 AM
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6th January. In cardiff. Not for the faint hearted.
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Dec 5th, 2006, 07:42 AM
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a est f:

You or others said previously that UK government banned some known football hooligans from traveling to matches abroad - well anyway in some post i made asking how this could legally happen. Now in a match inside the UK do authorities similarly ban such bad actors from going to Cardiff and if so how is that legal? Just curious.

PS I realize that hooligans are a very small part of the soccer diaspora but you did say only for the feint of heart.
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Dec 5th, 2006, 08:22 AM
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Bobert,

There are things called football banning orders which specifically ban named individuals from attending any football ground in Britain. These people are well known to the police and would get nicked if they tried to break the order.

Another thing is that the old bill know the main players in football hooliganism and there are special football intelligence units in all police forces whose sole purpose is to go after the hoolies. These police forces have specific powers relating to football and can contain the thugs.

Sadly there are still clubs with a large hooligan element in their support. Cardiff are usually accepted as having the worst hooligans in the country (that’s England and Wales). Unfortunately Spurs aren’t far behind – hence the near inevitability of violence around this match. Hence my absence from said game. As I have stated I am the Fotherington-Thomas of football fans. Hullo flowers, hullo trees.

If you want an insight into what I’m talking about stick “Cardiff soul crew” into google. I’d tell you the name of our hoolies, but people on here would be more upset by the racial aspect of it than the lunacy behind it.
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Dec 6th, 2006, 06:58 AM
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a est f - does this mean that the Spurs-Cardiff tiff will NOT be a friendly match as we talked about before?

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Dec 6th, 2006, 07:05 AM
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No it won't be very friendly. It's on the telly if you want to watch it (well it's on sky here and the septic broadcasterts tend to take the sky games for their won broadcasts)
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Dec 11th, 2006, 07:55 AM
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So a est f - why Cardiff next - is it on a pre-arranged schedule or did Cardiff win the right to meet the Spurs by beating someone else?

Is this a result of Spur beating the Aspirins and advancing?

Just curious.
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Dec 11th, 2006, 08:21 AM
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Bob:

Yes Cardiff beat someone else for the right to play us. It’s the FA Cup – a knockout competition drawn at random in the most ridiculous telly ever (balls in a velvet bag and Trevor Brooking looking like everyone’s uncle).

The FA Cup is a domestic competition, so the Euro adventure has nothing to do with it.

For historic reasons Cardiff and Swansea play in the English league (similarly Berwick* rangers play in the Scottish league even though they’re in England).

Clubs join the FA cup in order of position in the league and the big boys (ie the premiership) join at the third round. This is most people favourite round as there are often glorious mismatches with teams of semi-professionals used to playing in front of a few hundred getting drawn against Man Utd etc. The minnows usually spring a surprise each year. (Last year we lost a cup game to Grimsby – the shame)

So in short the random draw paired Spurs with Cardiff.

We’ll know our next Euro date in the new year.

* Is it in Berwick where it’s legal to shoot Scotsmen after dark?
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Dec 11th, 2006, 08:44 AM
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I am not sure about Berwick, but I seem to remember it was legal to shoot arrows at groups of 5 or more Welshman approaching the walls of Chester.
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Dec 11th, 2006, 08:49 AM
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so just wishfull thinking then? Oh well.
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Dec 11th, 2006, 09:59 AM
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>>I seem to remember it was legal to shoot arrows at groups of 5 or more Welshman approaching the walls of Chester.<<

And they say Londoners are stand-offish! Whatever are they like in Wilmslow?
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Dec 13th, 2006, 06:44 AM
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Soccer aficianados: Do they serve beer at such potentially volatile matches like the Spurs- Cardiff tiff? I assume they do serve beer at most soccer matches? Do they ever cut it off. American stadiums often cut off beer sales at a certain time and some just serve low-alcohol suds. It seems the penchant of hooligan types to get totally pissed would fuel the fire.

Just curious.
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Dec 13th, 2006, 06:59 AM
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It is illlegal to be drunk in a foootball stadium. Not that that’s ever stopped me or anyone else.

Beer and wine is on sale until 10 minutes before the start of the game, and at half time. You cannot take alcohol into the spectating bit, so youu have to drink it in the concourse.

Most grounds have lots of pubs nearby, where fans can drink and at least one of them will be put aside for visiting fans.

The way that the police and other authorities deal with the alcohol issue is they move the kick-off time forward – 12 noon kick offs are quite common for flash point matches. The idea being to stop people drinking all afternoon in the pub before the game.

In any case most hoolies are fuelled by charlie.
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Dec 13th, 2006, 07:36 AM
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That poor man gets the blame for everything.
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