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willit Nov 3rd, 2008 03:23 AM

fieldtripcoordinator - I have the same PC, and I love it - works fine in Europe.

When "Laptops" were still big and heavy, then no, i did not take one - but the little webbooks are great. I use them when away on business/study to keep in touch via Skype, download my photographs, play the odd game, and occassionally write up something in office. As it weighs so little, I do not find it a burden at all.

travelgourmet Nov 3rd, 2008 03:27 AM

<i>Has anyone lost their laptop or had it stolen?</i>

I have never had my laptop stolen from a hotel room, even when I forgot/didn't bother to lock it. Nor have I ever personally heard of anyone having theirs stolen from a hotel room. I do know several people that have had laptops stolen out of rental cars, however.

I would think that the hotel room is the best place to leave the laptop because the hotel management have a stake in making sure that stuff doesn't get pilfered from hotel rooms. With laptop prices as low as they are, even the staff has little incentive to steal it. I mean, why risk being fired for something that likely won't fetch $500 on the open market? Laptops just aren't that valuable anymore.

Challiman Nov 3rd, 2008 03:40 AM

Bookmarking, and...
We've done it both ways, this last time we didn't and I could have really used it. I had camera failure, couldn't get it working, and would have loved to be able to talk to Nikon, but with the limited access had I couldn't do that.
A small laptop like MmeFifi mentions would be just perfect for that sort of thing. Seriously looking into that.
So, thanks!

Suspaul Nov 3rd, 2008 06:46 AM

I've been taking my laptop on the past several European adventures, I too use Skype to stay in touch with family, very important to my elderly mother. Also I find it helpful to go online for directions, phone numbers, etc. I used to take my Toshiba laptop but earlier this year bought an ASUS eepc, very small, light weight, and does the trick. It's so small Best Buy didn't have a computer bag for it so I bought a padded bag that would hold a portable DVD player, works great.
Susan

rogeruktm Nov 3rd, 2008 07:33 AM

I take a total weight of 13# on my trips. So it would come down to either the lap top or shorts and socks. Besides, a trip away is just that, why take &quot;home&quot; with you?

StCirq Nov 3rd, 2008 09:34 AM

It's not taking &quot;home&quot; with me. I travel incredibly lightly, so it's not a choice between the laptop and socks or something.

If I didn't have my laptop, I wouldn't be able to write the trip reports I do, for one thing. Not that they're so important, or anything, but for me, as a writer, if I can't chronicle things as they happen, I feel deprived. If you're addicted to writing, as I am, a laptop is indispensable no matter where you are.

Not to mention that without a laptop, I'd also be deprived of my income, which enables me to travel and pay the bills. I don't have a salaried existence the way many of you do - I run a business and have to be working no matter where I am.

SAnParis2 Nov 3rd, 2008 09:46 AM

No, but we do take a 'memorystick' w/relevant data &amp; info on it.

WillTravel Nov 3rd, 2008 09:47 AM

Much as people hate to rail about technology like cellphones and Blackberries and laptops, it makes absence from the office possible for many people. Often it's not a choice between traveling with or without technological items, but a matter of taking them or not traveling at all.

rogeruktm Nov 3rd, 2008 10:14 AM

First, I do understand the need for some people to have to have a laptop, but most don't IMHO. Being retired I guess I am on vacation all the time, but when I travel I want to be totally unencumbered. Even when I worked I made sure that I wasn't
expected to maintain contact. To me that what time off meant!

What I see more of are people on holiday spending vast amounts of time with their laptops going, cell phone in use, text messages being spent and/or games being played. And that's just the adults. :).

tcreath Nov 3rd, 2008 11:03 AM

I have to because I take online classes and unfortunately my school schedule does not usually align itself with my vacation schedule. The beauty of online courses is that I do what I can ahead of time (papers, etc), but much of the course involves participating in online discussions from week to week. I get on in the morning or late in the evening, post a few lines and I'm done. With the exception of school work, it's not used.

Tracy

Leburta Nov 3rd, 2008 11:19 AM

I'm in a business that requires that I be constantly accessible, so computers and the internet have actually made it possible for me to travel without guilt and to efficiently manage my business while I'm away. I'm not sure that I would take a computer with me if my business did not require me to, however. It is a small hassle to get through airports and to secure them. It's one more thing to carry.

Since I have to have one anyway, though, it's been a great help on the road. I've gotten emergency answers from this board (in record time, I might add!). I can keep a journal and unload photos from my camera each day.

So if you can benefit from any of these things, it's worth taking your laptop along.

bdjtbenson Nov 3rd, 2008 12:02 PM

Too much weight. It's not just the computer but the recharger, software, case all add to your weight and bulk. More to carry, more to keep track of.

When I pack, I focus on eliminating everything I can do without. People talk about doing research or emailing home. My time on the road is valuable. I do my research and email before I go and after I return (respectively).

With cheap memory available for my camera. I can take a few memory chips for next to no weight.

I can see bringing a cell phone with an address book and calendar built in.

Watching movies only works for a couple of hours before your battery runs out. You should sleep on the plane rather than watching movies and showing up tired.

Using Skype to call home isn't a bad option. You can call home cheaply with a PIN card and it fits in your wallet.

If I were doing a semester in Europe, I'd bring it. For a vacation, no way. Leave it home and travel light is the best advice I can give.

Lia Nov 3rd, 2008 12:31 PM

I take a Dell D430 notebook computer (there are others much lighter, smaller and probably less expensive) for access to local events, news, email, uploading photos, etc...

Almost all of the hotels I stay in have free internet access/wi-fi in the room and/or lobby.

The laptop is small enough to put in the safe but I rarely do and have never had one stolen.

It's come in handy, especially when I need current information or have a problem with travel plans so it's definitely worth it to me!

Travelnut Nov 3rd, 2008 01:25 PM

Hi, y'all... in Paris this week... bought an <u>Acer Aspire One</u> on sale at CompUSA prior to leaving - it's SWEET !

Downloaded a couple of Blockbuster movies for use this week, checked photos, email, weather (since it rained the first 4 days we were here), and so on.

This hotel and the two Texas hotels we use have free wifi, as do many others in our travels. Today we took it to the little square down from the Paris hotel and used some free wifi provided by the city of Paris. The thing fits in my pocketbook but is easy enough to type on and read the type on the screen. We use a security locking cable when we leave the laptop in the room.

I trolled eBay endlessly for Acer or Dell but they go at full retail or more so no benefit there. Lenovo is coming out with one also. The Acer had some frequent comments on reviews about the cooling fan noise, but I'm not experiencing that at all. It boots up quickly, runs fairly quickly, and is perfect for travel and occasional use (I wouldn't use one for full-time work,though).

Intex Nov 3rd, 2008 06:21 PM

If you are tech savvy, yes I would take a small laptop on any trip outside the U.S. We took 2 last month, uses include:
1. Booking Train tickets while there
2. Booking airfare while there
3. Searching for restaurants, their tel numbers, addresses,and menus online.
4. Downloading pixs from digital cameras
5. Keep in touch with kids and business contacts (this was a vacation, but try to leave work for 2.5 months without one)
6. Research cities and sites to visit at next destination
7. Watch movies online, when CNN is the only thing in English on your TV
8. Check pricing on items you may want to buy (even antiques, etc)
9. Use PC as GPS
10. Get in touch with landlord via email.

This is just a short list, the laptop is not indispensible, actually nothing is, but it does make us MUCH more effective / efficient travelers.
Next time try finding CyberCafes in Europe, as the price of PC's decrease more people are buying their own, and more Cafes are closing down.

Maria_H Nov 3rd, 2008 11:34 PM

Like Travelnut, we recently bought an Acer Aspire One. We'd been looking for something to backup and view the hundreds of photographs we take on holiday. Dedicated photo backup devices seemed expensive and inflexible but when we saw this little laptop, it fitted the bill completely. At 1kg it's small and light enough to take with you but big enough to have a useful sized screen. We got the fully functioning XP version, with 1Gb memory and 100gb hard drive - more than enough for all our pictures. We found it really useful on our recent trip to Greece.

afterall Nov 4th, 2008 02:40 AM

Of course not. I wouldn't take my laptop anywhere. What a hassle having to lug it around. Especially if you have to CARRY it (maybe you won't).

Look, I love the net (else I wouldn't be here) but do you really need to have instant access to everything when you are on HOLIDAY?

As for watching movies on the plane - come on!! read a book.

And yes, sounds like it could be a distraction from getting out and about. Leave the beast at home.

Robespierre Nov 4th, 2008 02:36 PM

<i>What a hassle having to lug it around.</i>

You must be thinking of 20th-century luggables. Almost every manufacturer now markets small (7-10&quot; screen) and light (2-4#) machines. This one is about the size and weight of your book. Looky here: preview.tinyurl.com/63panx

tedgale Nov 4th, 2008 02:57 PM

Internet access while abroad is awfully important to me.

Not just to keep in touch with friends and send them &quot;Don't you wish you were me?&quot; emails.

I plan while I'm on site. Check the weather. Find the phone number for a restaurant. Check the hours of a museum.

Yes, I could do that from an Internet cafe -- if I could find one. I'd have to deal, of course, with their lousy hardware, slow connections, different keyboards (try finding @ on a French keyboard -- each one is different).

True story:

One January week, some years ago, we were in Bratislava. My spouse had business meetings but I was getting cabin fever. I said, &quot;Where can I go for 24-36 hours? How about Budapest?&quot;

Never been there. Got on the laptop and found a train schedule, booked a cheap hotel, found a city map and the week's events -- forwarded the latter to the hotel's front desk, where they printed them for me. In short, I planned a trip to a totally unknown city from my hotel room.

It went off like clockwork (except for the theft of my train ticket from my knapsack in Bratislava train station).

I will never forget that short trip -- the start of my love affair with Budapest -- and it would never have been possible without easy and ample Internet access.

knickerbocker Nov 4th, 2008 03:48 PM

I guess it depends where you're going and how long you're going to be away. Our trip to France and Italy last year, I dragged my old Toshiba laptop with me to download digital pix (and backup to a USB key for good measure), keep trip notes (for a trip report still to be written) and track our expenses in Quicken so if there were any 'surprise' bank withdrawls or credit card charges, I'd be all over it. I wasn't too worried about the computer getting stolen as it was an old model and I'm pretty religious about backing data up to the USB key so even if it did get stolen or otherwise become inoperative, I still had the most important stuff.

Aside from that, I used it to check email and stay in touch back home as needed; pretty much the same way as has been already detailed here by others

caroltis Nov 4th, 2008 05:25 PM

We take ours and use it almost exclusively to download our photos so that we can identify and classify them while the details are fresh in our minds.

Comes in handy of course when you have ability to connect with internet and check email, pay bills, etc.

Carrybean Nov 5th, 2008 01:11 AM

I never had traveled with one before last June when I went to Atlanta for 6 days. I was surprised how handy it was &amp; I used it nightly.

Can't wait to have it in London next May. I'm not out much at night &amp; this will be so convenient to look up schedules, etc. as well as loading the pictures. Last trip there someone else took a picture using my new, unfamiliar camera &amp; switched a setting making the remainder of my photos in the video setting. I would have caught that had I downloaded pics that evening.

I understand people not wanting to lug one on their trip as I was the same but I'm a convert now.

abby3304 Nov 5th, 2008 09:49 AM

Hi, I just joined fodor's. I just got an Aspire One XP. I know how to email and use internet , but other than that I am a real beginner. So, please bare with me when I ask some questions. How do I use a SD card for data. How do I download movies from the internet to watch when I travel since the Aspire does not have a DVD drive. How do I back-up pictures? Do I have to join a picture site, like EasyShare? I see people have USB drives, what can I use this for and how do I use it - can I download movies to it or pictures for more back-up? I know most of you probably have been doing this forever, but I am just learning. Thanks for your help.

fieldtripcoordinator Nov 5th, 2008 10:31 AM

abby3304,
&lt;How do I use a SD card for data. &gt;

Treat it like any other storage device that's on your computer. Open &quot;My Computer&quot; from the start menu. Then double click on the device letter associated with the SD card. It should be listed under &quot;devices with removable storage&quot;. Note what letter is assigned to it. On my Aspire, it's &quot;D&quot;.
When you want to copy something to it, right click on the file you want to copy, then &quot;send to&quot;, then the device in the list.

&lt;How do I download movies from the internet to watch when I travel since the Aspire does not have a DVD drive. ?&gt;
You'd have to copy it to a USB flash drive if you don't want to take space up on the computer on its hard drive. The hard drive is also listed on&quot;My Comptuter&quot;. Right click on it, highlight &quot;properties&quot; in the list, and it will show you how much room is available on the drive.

&lt;How do I back-up pictures?&gt;
What kind of memory card is in your camera? It's likely you can insert it in the multicard slot on the right side of the computer. Then it appears in the &quot;devices with removable storage&quot; list under &quot;My computer&quot;.

&lt; Do I have to join a picture site, like EasyShare? &gt;
No. You can store them on the hard drive, or have a backup on a USB flash drive, kept separate from the computer in case the computer is lost or stolen.

&lt;I see people have USB drives, what can I use this for and how do I use it - can I download movies to it or pictures for more back-up?&gt;
Answered above.

&lt; I know most of you probably have been doing this forever, but I am just learning. Thanks for your help.&gt;
We were all beginners at some point!

Hope this helps.

abby3304 Nov 5th, 2008 10:49 AM

Yes, your answers do help. I will experiment with a usb drive on my desktop computer and then see if I can transfer it to my mini laptop. Do you think I can download skype on the aspire one and use it in New Zealand and Australia? I appreciate your help.

Robespierre Nov 5th, 2008 12:00 PM

Skype will work on any Windows PC (and several other classes of computing devices) that has audio input/output ports and an internet connection.

sssteve Nov 5th, 2008 08:01 PM

I see that Roadwarrior is traveling to Spain. My daughter took her laptop to Barcelona and it hasn't been seen since. It was stolen in Barcelona, the number one city in Europe for crime against tourists.

eliza3 Nov 5th, 2008 09:11 PM

sssteve

I would be interested in knowing where you got that statistic from re Barcelona.

sssteve Nov 8th, 2008 12:14 AM

eliza:

I have no statistical evidence. It's just what I have learned from reading the fodors forum (and personal experience). Here are a couple of threads on the subject:

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=35101746

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34955843

And here's an article about the subject.

http://bobarno.com/thiefhunters/2008...-street-crime/


sf7307 Dec 19th, 2008 11:02 AM

All, the Acer Aspire One is on sale at CompUSA online for $359. Is this a good price (it's just $20 off retail -- can it be had for a better price?). Are you still happy with your purchase?

http://www.compusa.com/applications/...7&amp;csid=_23

takemealong Dec 19th, 2008 11:14 AM

I do not take a laptop. I take an iPod Touch. I use its wi-fi capability to send/check email and keep up with world &amp; local news.

travelgourmet Dec 19th, 2008 01:00 PM

sf7307 - I don't see a lot of variation in pricing for this model. Most retailers seem to be selling it for $379. I suspect that this is about as good as you will get right now. At prices that low, there simply isn't that much room to cut.

There are other netbooks out there, though all seem to hover around the same price. Might be worth looking around, though the Acer does give a lot of disk space for the price, if you need it.

WTnow Dec 19th, 2008 02:01 PM

We always travel with at least one computer and often have 3 with us. We are into our 3rd year of an open ended world tour and jokingly call ourselves the 3 laptop family!

We even had a laptop with us when we were in a remote area in the Sahara desert in Morocco!

We often travel for a month or more with just a tiny daypack each and we always have at least one laptop plus homeschool supplies included! ( Sometimes this also includes 3 seasons of clothes!!).

We do almost all of our calls for free on Skype ( local and long distance). Obviously in our case, we do everything online and it is part of what gives us our freedom.

We winter every year in Andalusia and have spent a ton of time all around Spain ( north, south, central etc). We love Barcelona and have spent a ton of time there.

We have never had any crime problems in Barcelona or anywhere in Spain.

http://www.soultravelers3.com

Heimdall Dec 19th, 2008 02:08 PM

I don't understand the need for a huge HDD in a netbook, which will be used mainly while travelling, for checking emails, a little web surfing, and maybe to download some photos.

I opted for a Dell Mini 9 with a 16GB solid-state hard drive, feeling it will be more robust than an ordinary HDD. I haven't had it long enough to know whether that was the best choice, but am more likely to take it on trips than my 13&quot; notebook computer.

travelgourmet Dec 19th, 2008 02:22 PM

<i>I don't understand the need for a huge HDD in a netbook</i>

I don't think you need something huge, but 16GB can easily get tight, particularly if you want to watch movies or take a lot of pictures, particularly if you use RAW. I would probably put my minimum at 60 GB.

Kyliebaby3 Dec 19th, 2008 02:36 PM

Never have before, but will in a week when we go to Europe. I bought a little netbook, so it weighs about 3 lbs and it's tiny. Figured it will be great for all of the advantages you listed, minute watching movies (mine doesn't have a drive for CDs/DVDs).

travelgourmet Dec 19th, 2008 03:08 PM

Kyliebaby: You can download movies (legally) from iTunes or Amazon, among others, so no need for a drive. There are also plenty of ways to illegally download them, if you prefer.

scatcat Dec 19th, 2008 03:29 PM

I take flash drives with movies downloaded. My Asus EEE has only 4G so I don't use up the hard drive with movies, and the flash drives are small and easy to handle.

Robespierre Dec 19th, 2008 03:42 PM

Solid-state movies are the way to go, be they built-in or plug-in, because they use the least power on playback. Hard drives are second, and optical drives a distant last because of the power consumed by the laser that reads the disc.

spaarne Dec 19th, 2008 04:34 PM


I just spent five days in Paris and brought my laptop. It is an Asus EEE PC 1000 which I bought specifically for this trip. It's a beautiful little machine with built in wifi and takes up little space in my day bag. I found cafes with wifi hot spots all around the city but I had to buy a coffee or a beer to get the access code. These were good moments to check my email and reply. I also did some writing and was able to do my expense report on the return flight. In DTW I found a free hot spot and could email again during a five hour lay over. The battery was running down but I found an outlet to recharge.

My disappointment was that my hotel had wifi but it would not connect with my Asus. Such is the fate of a two star hotel.



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