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Do you feel safer when flying a foreing airline??

Jan 9th, 2002, 09:23 AM
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Remember that the terrorrists wanted full loads of fuel. There are more flights from Boston to the west coast in the mornings than to Europe. They wanted a choice of long distance flights for the fuel and they wanted to hit while people were at work.
 
Jan 9th, 2002, 09:50 AM
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Kim,

In the UK at least all the flight deck doors of all the iarlines ( BA, Virgin, Bmi British midland etc) are locked now and they have been strengthened
 
Jan 9th, 2002, 09:53 AM
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Yes, YES, YES, not ony the airlines with American or United in their name but I would be really nervous with any other US airline. Not only you get an inferior service but you are now subject to terorism. From now on Lufthansa, Alitalia, Air France, Brithish Aiways here I come!!
 
Jan 9th, 2002, 10:46 AM
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I understand what would make people resort to this logic -- fear and the need to attempt to control the uncontrollable.

By the logic being used on this board, however, you're better off using Gulf Air, Royal Jordanian, and other Arab carriers because the likelihood is much smaller that Al Qaida would target them.

I would ask, along with Ellen, that people remember that there are economic implications to their actions (recession or no). In other words, it's kind of sketchy for an American to go around sporting an American flag t-shirt but then go running to non-US airlines. As a New Yorker and as someone who has witnessed other terrorist attacks abroad, I understand the fear, but I also feel a) there is absolutely no way to predict these things, either attacks or accidents and b) people should put their money where their mouths are.
 
Jan 9th, 2002, 02:36 PM
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I agree with what the above posters said. Although I chose to fly a foreign to Europe, My husband and I still fly domestic every 4-5 weeks with his work schedule. If everyone stays afraid the economy will continue to worsen. However, I still do think terrorists are out there. And I admit I'm still a little wary....
 
Jan 9th, 2002, 03:18 PM
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I absolutely avoid flying US-based airlines as well as British Airways, which I think it's also at risk after the total support UK has given to the US bombings in Afghanistan. I'd rather fly Alitalia, Lufthansa or Air France.
 
Jan 10th, 2002, 10:56 AM
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If safety is your issue AND you are going to Europe the I would fly BA. They are heavily government supported and therefore will has a little better on the secure side.
The ultimate in security is EL AL but you gotta go where they fly
 
Jan 11th, 2002, 08:28 AM
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I am flying Delta to Europe in May. I still believe American carriers are more reliable and safer. Would I fly American Airlines, no way because of lthe name! I posted a remark yesterday that seems to have been deleted. I do think the cockpit doors are an issue with other than American carriers, but to me the main issue is that only US airlines are required to make certain upgrades or changes to an aircraft when it is considered a safety issue. Other airlines do not fall under our standards and certain alterations that are mandatory for American carriers are not for others. This was on the news when the Swiss air flight went down a couple of years ago because they apparently did not make certain wiring changes that American carriers were required to make for safety issues. Interesting that this comment was deleted almost immediately yesterday! Anyone else remember this?
 
Jan 11th, 2002, 11:30 AM
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I'm fine either way. Believe there are some foreign airlines I would never travel on Olympic and Iberia. Both are horrible both in terms of safety and on-time average.
 
Jan 11th, 2002, 02:37 PM
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I might be a little nervous flying on Bombay Airlines. :~)

Hey, if it makes you feel more secure flying on a non-American-United-USAir (or non-US) carrier, go for it.

Just remember, foreign airlines (e.g. Swissair out of New York City a few years ago) aren't immune from accidents so there's always going to be some level of risk no matter what carrier you choose.
 
Jul 14th, 2004, 06:34 AM
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I fly large European carriers due to terrorism fears but I prefer AA for international flights since their seats are larger and they are happy to have you on board. I think it is dumb but I do it!
 
Jul 14th, 2004, 07:17 AM
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"I think fear and a healthy dose of awareness are two different things..."

I'd be interested in just what this "awareness" consists of. Someone above said they are convinced that there is some sort of "connection" between terrorist use of flights run by "United" and "American." That's an assumption and certainly not proven fact...nor is it factual that there is any more likelihood of an attack being carried out against as US vs a foreign-flag carrier...someone may THINK this is more likely but it isn't proven.

Hey, if you want to take a foreign carrier it is fine by me....just makes it easier for me to book my tickets on US-based airlines.
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Jul 14th, 2004, 07:20 AM
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And as a follow-on to the above..foreign flagged carrier or not...I thought this multi-billion dollar scheme of the current administration to check high and low at airports, heightened security, etc., was supposed to PROTECT us from these attacks...apparently you don't think that is working, either, huh?
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Jul 14th, 2004, 07:45 AM
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TopMan, just curious, but what would you do DIFFERENTLY if you were President of the US?
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Jul 14th, 2004, 07:47 AM
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As I recall, British Airways AND Air France were potential terroist targets around the Christmas holidays and in early spring. Wouldn't think Air France would be a target, but hey, these are terroists. It is futile to try to comprehend their logic b/c they are NOT logical human beings! Their main objective is to inflict fear among us. Don't let them win! I really do not enjoy flying, even more so b/c of 9/11, but I love to travel, and I will not let my personal fears OR some lunatic fundamentalists ruin my future trips, no matter what the airline!
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Jul 14th, 2004, 07:53 AM
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I have flown American, Contintental, BA, Iceland Air and Aer Lingus the last few years with ZERO problems. Since the war started, I have flown to Europe 3 times with ZERO problems. American is my FF airline and I have always had very good service with them and I will continue to fly AA.

Taking a vacation to Iraq right now would be irrational. Avoiding US carriers because they might be portential target threats is irrational. Al Qaida has shown that they have on problem killing Muslims as well as Westerners. You cannot live your life worrying about what might happen. The risk of something happening is part of everyday life. Look at all the innocent people killed or injured on the roads because some idiot decided to drink and drive. Are you going to stop driving because of that possibilty?
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Jul 14th, 2004, 08:04 AM
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TopMan, would you prefer the lax security we had BEFORE 9/11?? Personally, I wouldn't, and don't mind what you call a multi-billion dollar "scheme" to protect us. ANYTHING that might avert another terrorist attack is welcome to me!! So far, the current administration has been successful in that so far, and I applaud them for at least trying.
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Jul 14th, 2004, 08:08 AM
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Flying is never 100% safe.I just go and dont think about it..

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Jul 14th, 2004, 08:20 AM
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Friends have just returned from the UK via Air France and their baggage was left behind. Air France admitted that it is having big trouble in that direction.
What was worse is the fact the cases had been opened and robbed.
My friend says if theres time to take stuff out - There's time to put stuff in.......like a bomb.
Do you think she has a point?
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Jul 14th, 2004, 01:24 PM
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Sue4, what do you mean by "the lax security we had BEFORE 9/11"?

The 9/11 hijackings worked for 3 reasons: 1. the weapons were legal to carry on board; the screeners didn't do anything wrong. 2. cockpit doors weren't secured. 3. air crews were trained to not resist, since hijackers in the U.S. were usually looking for $$$, not to kill.

A study that came out recently found that the current screeners are letting more prohibited items through than the screeners before 9/11 were.

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