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Do you ever just want to go and be, rather than planning all the sites to see?

Do you ever just want to go and be, rather than planning all the sites to see?

Dec 9th, 2007, 12:30 PM
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Oh Tiff, your new coat sounds truly wonderful!! I would imagine you would enjoy it in Rome. You could wear it onto the plane..I always do that as I usually get cold during flights and having a coat even if used as a "blanket" is always a godsend. BTW, what a wimp I am. It is somewhere around 55 degree right now and I am cold,lol.

And yes dear one I do remember your promise. Thank you, that will be very precious to me as you know. Hugs to you both.

BTW, here is an article from the International Herald Tribune for you to enjoy. I am posting it here so others that are going to Rome can read it also.

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Dec 9th, 2007, 12:30 PM
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p.s. Liz, lol, did you ever dine at Tavernetta San Maurizio (San Marco 2619 phone 041 5285240) the first time you were there? It is truly not to be missed. Melt in your mouth food that I still almost could just faint when I think about it, lol. No tourists, only local residents. Completely divine!

Not to be missed, my friend, not to be missed!
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Dec 9th, 2007, 12:35 PM
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Oh LoveItaly, thanks you. I LOVE sculpture, so I have really been looking forward to the Borghese, now I am even more!!!!!
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Dec 9th, 2007, 12:37 PM
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Non planning was the favorite part of my last trip (need to finish my report )Just go wherever the mood takes you. Have a great time.


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Dec 9th, 2007, 01:05 PM
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My trips with just the kids have been seat of pants on a space available basis. That means, we often did not know where we were going until we got a flight. I would pack the core items that I would need for any destination and then put other items in ziplocks, different bags for different climates in the car trunk. When I knew where we were going, I would throw the appropriate bags in the luggage together with a guide book to read on the flight. I love the adventure of traveling that way and we have ended up in places that we really enjoyed and may not have chosen if we had that choice, for example, the Azores.

DW prefers actual tickets and a known place to stay however. Both ways are great. Our next trip to Paris, Bruges, Antwerp and Haarlem will be of the latter and we are doing quite a bit of planning for this one. Let's see how it goes.
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Dec 9th, 2007, 01:36 PM
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"Do you ever just want
to go and be,
Rather than planning
all the sites to see."

Oh yes! I would --
but then I find
the sites I might miss,
and leave behind!

So it's Hey! for the guidebook
And Ho! for the plan
And we'll find quiet corners
As best as we can!

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Dec 9th, 2007, 03:14 PM
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Fabulous Fra, I love it
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Dec 9th, 2007, 08:42 PM
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I thought I was a planner until I started comin go otthis board. Now I realise I am a mere infant in the school of planning. I had never even thought of numbering restaurants on maps until a few months ago when I read it here. Not a bad idea - but still does not mean I would end up visiting them. Often when the time comes I find we don't feel like certain types of meals, we might want a quick snack or we had lucked upon a perfect restaurant at lunch so we never quite make it to the planned dinner restaurant. That's why I don't book at a restaurant until a few hours before meal time if I can help it- or ideally not at all.

I like to plan for the "in case". There are a few sites of course that I don't want to miss. I will make bookings for some of these if timing is tight or if they absolutely require a booking (eg Scavi, Villa Borghese, Last Supper in Milan etc). However the rest of the planning is just ideas - what ifit is wet, what if it si too hot, what if we are too tired etc then we can wing it on all the days except the pre-booked tours.
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Dec 9th, 2007, 10:36 PM
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Hi, Tiff,
I too think that for a repeat trip you are right on target not to plan too much.

When it is your first time in a large city, it is good to have an idea of what sites are quite near each other.... that if you like Michelangelo and are planning to go to the Colosseum, that you could go see his Moses in a nearby church.

But for a second trip it is nice to slow down. Our second trip to Rome was over the holidays and somedays everything was closed. It was nice just to relax. I think you will enjoy it.
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Dec 9th, 2007, 10:40 PM
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Tiff, eat your way through Roma!!! Sounds like a tasty plan.

If you REALLY want to plan some sites, plan every third day. Leave the rest for spontaneous pleasures.
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Dec 10th, 2007, 05:19 AM
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You know, there really is something to be said for staying home. For going to the library and borrowing a cookbook on Italian cookery, and cookin' up a storm on one's own simple hearth, perhaps with friends. Of just wandering the streets in one's own hometown, and finding a local bar that serves prosecco. Of patronizing local artists, and living in the here and now, instead of wishing one's life away until some arbitrary time of departure.

Some day, I'll give up the rat race of earning disposable income, of shopping for air tickets and hotel rooms and going to airports, and take up the simple life, free of complex desires....

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Dec 10th, 2007, 06:54 AM
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I'm sure it won't be busy if late November is any guide. Enjoy, your plan or lack of one sounds wonderful!
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Dec 10th, 2007, 07:04 AM
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That's exactly what we did in Rome.

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Dec 10th, 2007, 07:34 AM
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Tiff, I think your plan is perfect! I do think that it's easier to travel this way when it's not your first trip to a place. The first time requires more planning so you can see what you feel you really want to see.

My last few trips to Rome, I've had a list of some places I wanted to visit and their opening and closing times, and that was it. I saw a lot of them, some I'll just put off until the next trip (in Feb...can't wait!). I'm just as likely to do something else I find along the way or just sit in a piazza or at a cafe and enjoy Rome. Have a great trip, and I look forward to your report!

LoveItaly, that was an interesting article. I wish that exhibit went past Feb 3, as I won't arrive until Feb 16.
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Dec 10th, 2007, 08:52 AM
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I wish I were just as pathetic as you!!

I find it hard to visit a city I haven't seen before without a plan, and sometimes I have to remind myself to plan to do nothing, but I am looking forward to the repeat trips where I can do it Tiff-style and just soak up the ambience and not worry about the museum trip or even the right restaurant reservation.

(Although, I also think the Borghese is worth a reservation...even my kids still talk about it.)

Like another poster above, I thought I was a real planner until I found Fodors... I was glad to see I'm a total novice... thank God!!
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Dec 10th, 2007, 09:37 AM
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I approached my trip to Paris in May the same way. I just wanted to be me over there. And without going to work. The only museum I entered was Ste. Chappelle. Otherwise, I wondered around. The one rainy day was a Sunday. Normally that's a call to sleep in but the hotel needed to clean, so I went out. Found the Sunday extended market at Bastille, took a long walk to Les Halles and eventually came upon the Fete du Pain at Notre Dame.

It was a very restful trip.
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Dec 10th, 2007, 10:02 AM
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Tiff-- I like traveling the same way; I'm all about good dining experiences mixed in with many leisurely cafe/gelato stops in random neighborhoods.

I usually identify 3-5 sights I definitely want to see over the course of the time I have and then leave the rest to chance. So on a given day I might just make just schedule stop somewhere and then play the rest by ear. It might be nice to number sights that you are interested (like you did for the restaurants) and then you'll at least be armed with the info.

Have a great trip!
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Dec 11th, 2007, 07:35 AM
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We may pick several things/places that we hope to see during our stay, but oftentimes, nowadays that can all go out the window in a heartbeat. Some of our best finds (food & otherwise) have been stumbled across by accident or while meandering aimlessly. By over-planning I think you remove some of the spontineity as well as some of the joy of travel. You'll always be rushing to get to the next spot or do the next thing, while missing a whole bunch in between.
Dec 12th, 2007, 01:22 PM
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Hi guys,

I wanted to post back to you all that I heard back the very next day for reservations for the Scavi Tour. I am not certain if this is a new policy but they now require pre-payment on reservations for the Scavi, so I faxed them our credit card information.

Also, I called the Borghese and we now have reservations.

I always still get a thrill calling Italy, hee.

Thanks again for all your fun posts!

Ciao my bella Fodorites, Ciao!
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Dec 12th, 2007, 01:25 PM
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p.s. I began reading The Agony and The Ecstasy a couple days ago. Now that I have couple reservations made, I can go back to reading and dreaming of our prosecco moments in bella Italia!
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