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travel_buzzing Mar 30th, 2009 01:20 PM

Do I need a licence to rent a scooter in Sicily? &more
 
Hello there,

I have been trying to look up information regarding scooter rental and or various options for getting around sicily. I would really appreciate links or help with the following>

Do I need a driver's licence to rent a scooter/moped in sicily? im under the impression that this is not necessary in spain, for example.

Does anyone here have experience or weblinks for train or bus services going from palermo to the very southern tip, near Noto.

Has anyone ever flown to Trapani to make your way to palermo? can you offer an opinion?

I will be travelling in late August and will need to plan ahead for non-car driving options.

Thanks.

logos999 Mar 30th, 2009 01:37 PM

>Do I need a driver's licence to rent a scooter/moped in sicily? im under the impression that this is not necessary in spain, for example.
The regulations are the same all over the EU. 50ccm and 50km/h max are what is o.k. with a standard "car" license.
Everything else will require a motorcycle license.

zeppole Mar 30th, 2009 01:39 PM

Late august in Sicily is incredibly, incredibly hot. Why are you unwilling to rent a car? Just curious.

Also, Sicilian driving is notoriously some of the most dangerous in Europe. Sure you want a moped?

hetismij Mar 30th, 2009 01:45 PM

A helmet is also compulsory.
Have a look at http://www.scooterhire.it/cat.asp?Cat=1

Pvoyageuse Mar 30th, 2009 02:03 PM

There is a shuttle bus from Birgi airport to Trapani AST bus station and from there you can take a bus to Palermo. I did it last October the other way around (from Palermo to Trapani).
A taxi from Birgi to Trapani will cost €25/30.

I do not advise you to rent a scooter or a moped, driving is.... erm ..... peculiar in Sicily.

There is a very comfortable bus between Palermo and Syracuse :
www.interbus.it/interbushtm/homepage.asp
(enter Palermo and Siracusa)

and a bus or train to Noto (we went by train and came back with the bus)

travel_buzzing Mar 30th, 2009 03:50 PM

thanks for your replies. i was looking for alternatives to public transportation since i do not drive (i need to get from palermo to south of siracusa). however i have since looked at the interbus website which put my mind at ease about long, complicated routes. the journey will be around 3 hours which is fine. thank you Pvoyageuse! how much is the journey?
also i found a great value non-direct flight to palermo via skyscanner which means no ryanair-trapani needed. yay!

zeppole Mar 30th, 2009 03:57 PM

If you do not drive you don't want to be driving a moped or anything on a Sicilian road.


Have a great time. Sicily is a great destination.

nytraveler Mar 30th, 2009 06:23 PM

You don;t drive and you were going to rent a scooter??? This is definitely close to madness. The only thing I know you can rent without a license is a bicycle. And what makes you think you would be able to ride a scooter - even if you were willing to take it out on a highway where it definitely doesn't belong?

StCirq Mar 30th, 2009 06:54 PM

Christ on a crutch. You don't even DRIVE and you are thinking of renting a SCOOTER in SICILY? I have two words for you: road kill.

Please take public transportation or walk. Seriously.

CasaDelCipresso Mar 30th, 2009 07:21 PM

with a bit of planning, I'm sure you can work out public transport options! you can't drive a scooter if you don't drive! (besides, the last time I rented one in Sorrento they definitely required my drivers license)

Pvoyageuse Mar 30th, 2009 10:27 PM

Travel buzzing :

I don't know how much is the bus ticket from Palermo to Siracuse. We rented a car in Trapani, drove to Agrigento, Siracusa, returned the car in Cefalu and took a train from Cefalu to Palermo.
Once we had safely parked the car in Siracuse (quite a feat !) we forgot about it and went to Noto by public transportation.
It is a pity you'll miss Trapani ..... in my opinion it is worth a visit (Ertice and Segeste especially) and not as crowded as the Eastern part of the island.

travel_buzzing Mar 31st, 2009 12:58 AM

Mmmm thanks everyone for the remarks which have gotten slightly out of hand. two words- band wagon.

Pvoyageuse, the trapani option would not have let me see that part of the island anyway since the flight wouldve arrived at 8pm and I wouldve gone straight to Palermo.
I have been to sicily before, loved it and my upcoming trip (for a friend's wedding in a beautiful spot outside Noto) will definitely not be the last.

Maybe one day I'll get my licence and do a motorbike tour ;)

nona1 Mar 31st, 2009 03:07 AM

Actually, it's not such a silly question. Particularly with regards to scooters - at least in the past you have been able to hire one without a license in a lot of the tourist spots of Europe. It used to be quite common for teenagers to do this, and our teens don't get licenses young. Whether it's a smart idea to do so, or not, is another matter.

I did a quick hunt for you and came up with this on another forum from 2008. http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic...re-Sicily.html

There is a copy of the conditions for scooters from one hirer, which shows that actually you don't need a license for the smallest scooters. Anyone over 14 with valid ID can have one. They only mention licenses for machines over 50cc.

"1. Conditions to rent scooters and motorcycles
In order to rent a 50cc Scooter, the driver needs to be at least 14 years of age,have valid ID, and also be accompanied by a person of at least 18 years."

hetismij Mar 31st, 2009 03:36 AM

I'm not sure you'd want to spend your holiday trying to get around on a 50cc scooter. My son and his GF went to Sicily a couple of years ago and got around just fine with public transport, and the occasional lift. They both have driving licences but being under 25 it was way too expensive for them to hire a car, and they wouldn't have dreamt of attempting Sicily on a scooter. Besides with camping gear as well a scooter would not have been very practical.

logos999 Mar 31st, 2009 09:46 AM

>"1. Conditions to rent scooters and motorcycles
In order to rent a 50cc Scooter, the driver needs to be at least 14 years of age,have valid ID, and also be accompanied by a person of at least 18 years."

Which is total nonsense as you might have guessed. ;-) At least police and insurance company think differently.

nytraveler Mar 31st, 2009 11:24 AM

Yes - but the smallest scooters are really for kids tooting around their local town. They are not meant for use on the open road - with cars whizzing past at 80 mph.

(A friend of mine in college had a tiny Vespa - with a top speed of about 25, that was fun to drive - but we never took it off campus - just too dangerous).

logos999 Mar 31st, 2009 12:03 PM

Yup, the license you need for scooters up to 50ccm (and 45kmh) is called a "class M license". You need to be at least 16 years old to get one and pass a test. No such scooter for kids under 16 years of age is legal!

Class M is included in any Class B license (=car), Class B also includes (most?) foreign (=US) licenses for cars!

Without any "license", kids can drive scooters with a maximum speed of 25km/h but the kids have to pass a 90 min driving test and a theoretical exam. This is more "relaxed" the further south you go :D


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