Deciding between an apartment and hotel room(s) - price seems about the same, what am I missing??
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As per previous post, our accommodation from trip in December 2012:
Almost finalised arrangements for our three weeks in Europe - leaving late next week.
Thought some of you might be interested in the accomodation we have chosen.
Self, wife and three kids - Daughters 20 & 18 and son 16. Three weeks of such togetherness will either bring us close as a family, or ensure it is the last holiday we ever take together!
It's going to be a busy time, but we are all so excited that it is nearly here - our daughters have both finished end of year exams in the last two days, and our son finishes his this week.
7 nights
http://www.thelondonagent.com/Super-...ll-Home-2.html
5 nights
http://www.vacationinparis.com/apts/id_18.htm
overnight
Paris - Venice Night train 6 berth couchette (fully booked all 6 berths)
https://www.thello.com/destinations/Horaires/index.html
2 nights
http://www.hotelmarconi.it/hotel_mar..._venice-en.htm
3 nights
http://www.hotelscoti.com/index.html
4 nights
http://www.rentalinrome.com/campodef...ricalapartment
All travel between locations by train:
Eurostar London - Paris
Trenitalia high speed services Venice - Florence and Florence - Rome
Almost finalised arrangements for our three weeks in Europe - leaving late next week.
Thought some of you might be interested in the accomodation we have chosen.
Self, wife and three kids - Daughters 20 & 18 and son 16. Three weeks of such togetherness will either bring us close as a family, or ensure it is the last holiday we ever take together!
It's going to be a busy time, but we are all so excited that it is nearly here - our daughters have both finished end of year exams in the last two days, and our son finishes his this week.
7 nights
http://www.thelondonagent.com/Super-...ll-Home-2.html
5 nights
http://www.vacationinparis.com/apts/id_18.htm
overnight
Paris - Venice Night train 6 berth couchette (fully booked all 6 berths)
https://www.thello.com/destinations/Horaires/index.html
2 nights
http://www.hotelmarconi.it/hotel_mar..._venice-en.htm
3 nights
http://www.hotelscoti.com/index.html
4 nights
http://www.rentalinrome.com/campodef...ricalapartment
All travel between locations by train:
Eurostar London - Paris
Trenitalia high speed services Venice - Florence and Florence - Rome
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We'll fly from Rome to London on a cheapo airline. I looked at the train and its a full day+ which could either be relaxing or boring, depending on how its viewed. By my calculations, an apartment is about $60/day more expensive than two hotel rooms so the decision becomes...is that amount going to be saved by eating breakfast in each day, potentially doing prepared take out from local deli's and worth having the extra space, wifi and laundry available? My guess is that, yes, it will be worth the extra money.
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One more opinion and experience: for two, we like apartments because in our price range, we get much more for our money in Rome than we could in a similarly priced hotel.
For four, I want two bathrooms. If you can afford two hotel rooms, why not? The bathrooms would make all the difference to me.
Finally, the extra one hundred dollars often makes a big difference to me. If I stay for a week, it could mean the difference in where I eat, when I can return, etc. For some of us, a hundred a night can make a huge difference.
Oh I said "finally" but I lied. For 4 people, I would really want two bathrooms no matter how I had to get them.
For four, I want two bathrooms. If you can afford two hotel rooms, why not? The bathrooms would make all the difference to me.
Finally, the extra one hundred dollars often makes a big difference to me. If I stay for a week, it could mean the difference in where I eat, when I can return, etc. For some of us, a hundred a night can make a huge difference.
Oh I said "finally" but I lied. For 4 people, I would really want two bathrooms no matter how I had to get them.
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We just spent 10 days in a Paris apt with daughters 21 and 22 yr old, frequent hair washers, and then 10 days in London hotels. I liked them both.
Hotel pluses: Clean towels! Clean sheets! and we all enjoyed the conviviality of London hotel breakfasts and lounge.
Hotel pluses: Clean towels! Clean sheets! and we all enjoyed the conviviality of London hotel breakfasts and lounge.
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Must admit that when not traveling alone we ALWAYS get separate rooms - even for DDs - since they were 11 and 14. I am not sharing a bath with 2 tween/teen girls for ANY amount of money.
We do not do apartments since we prefer full service: breakfast in bed, rooms service, nice bar in the hotel and concierge. But if money were a big issue we might get an apartment.
We have considered renting a villa (Riviera or Costa del Sol) with a group of 4 or 6 - but somehow the timing never works out.
We do not do apartments since we prefer full service: breakfast in bed, rooms service, nice bar in the hotel and concierge. But if money were a big issue we might get an apartment.
We have considered renting a villa (Riviera or Costa del Sol) with a group of 4 or 6 - but somehow the timing never works out.
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@annhig - this was a general question. 2 hotel rooms are running around $1500-1600 for 7 nights; a 2 bedroom apartment is running around $1900-2000 for 7 nights. I was just wondering if that was the norm.
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Can't speak to experience in Rome, but in London we have enjoyed both hotels and apartments. The one thing I do miss in an apartment is the hotel fitness center, but there are public gyms (at an additional cost.) If the pivotal issue is cost - yes, it is possible to offset $60/day with four people. Hotel breakfasts alone can get expensive.
If the deciding factor is comfort - not so cut and dry. The additional space and acceptability of jammies for pre-ministration morning coffee and evening lounging are, IMO, priceless. Having to throw my own towels in the washing machine is no big deal. Two bathrooms if traveling with more than just the two of us is nice but we have survived with just one, even when accompanied by a Sephora addict. With four people, not sure I have not become too spoiled to tolerate. (Then again, I grew up in a house with 10 people and one bathroom. See: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...tme137226.html)
If the deciding factor is comfort - not so cut and dry. The additional space and acceptability of jammies for pre-ministration morning coffee and evening lounging are, IMO, priceless. Having to throw my own towels in the washing machine is no big deal. Two bathrooms if traveling with more than just the two of us is nice but we have survived with just one, even when accompanied by a Sephora addict. With four people, not sure I have not become too spoiled to tolerate. (Then again, I grew up in a house with 10 people and one bathroom. See: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...tme137226.html)
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>>You found a hotel in London where you can get 14 room nights (2 rooms x 7 nights) for $1500??? Are you sure that is not quoted pounds? And is it a place you would want to stay?
I was thinking the same thing. WHERE?!
I was thinking the same thing. WHERE?!
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We stayed in this apt in Rome: http://www.sleepinitaly.com/rome/cam...ent-balestrari
It is exactly as pictured. Two twins in one room and a queen in the other. Right off of Campo Dei Fiori. Loved it. Would definitely stay there again.
Looks like it is a bit lower than you quoted above.
It is exactly as pictured. Two twins in one room and a queen in the other. Right off of Campo Dei Fiori. Loved it. Would definitely stay there again.
Looks like it is a bit lower than you quoted above.
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Another consideration is that you can fix something to eat when you would like to. While many people enjoy eating dinner at 7:30 or 8:00 pm, if you would like to eat earlier, it's hard to find a restaurant in Rome open before then. For a short stay in a city, say less than a week, you might want to go out for dinner every night
But for a longer stay, I like the option of being able to stay in and fix something simple, especially since the markets have the most amazing fruits and vegetables and you can find such excellent deli meats, cheeses, breads, and wines or other beverages.
But for a longer stay, I like the option of being able to stay in and fix something simple, especially since the markets have the most amazing fruits and vegetables and you can find such excellent deli meats, cheeses, breads, and wines or other beverages.
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In my experience Rome apartments are very expensive over the holidays. I am not a hotel person; I always feel less bothered and more independent in an apartment (just my personal preference). So I choose apartments whenever I'm staying longer than four nights someplace--but not because it's less expensive!
We stayed here for the holidays several years ago. Plenty of room and a bit shabby chic/tatty but certainly not inexpensive:
http://www.bestrentalinrome.com/bramante/bramante.htm
I've also stayed here. Less expensive and with an elevator but didn't love it. No washer/dryer.
http://www.vrbo.com/283439
Anyway, neither of these places are near the Spanish Steps. I think there's a fairly inexpensive 2-bd from realrome.com in that area. You might contact them if you decide to go the apartment route.
We stayed here for the holidays several years ago. Plenty of room and a bit shabby chic/tatty but certainly not inexpensive:
http://www.bestrentalinrome.com/bramante/bramante.htm
I've also stayed here. Less expensive and with an elevator but didn't love it. No washer/dryer.
http://www.vrbo.com/283439
Anyway, neither of these places are near the Spanish Steps. I think there's a fairly inexpensive 2-bd from realrome.com in that area. You might contact them if you decide to go the apartment route.
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Oh, I'm sorry. I see that the Accetti Palace apartment is no longer available on vrbo. Looks like you can still rent it via flip key or rentalinrome.com.
And second sorry. I think the realrome.com apartment I was thinking of is a 1-bd.
Have never rented in London!
And second sorry. I think the realrome.com apartment I was thinking of is a 1-bd.
Have never rented in London!
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@annhig - this was a general question. 2 hotel rooms are running around $1500-1600 for 7 nights; a 2 bedroom apartment is running around $1900-2000 for 7 nights. I was just wondering if that was the norm.>>
no, not the norm at all, hence all the curfuffle above.
I'm not clear about why you are so reluctant to post the links to these places - there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation for this discrepancy, but without the links we can't tell what it is. worst case would normally be that the 2 options break even, but you get so much space and freedom with an apartment, plus the option to eat in etc. that it's usually the better option.
we're not trying to pry, but without knowing which hotel rooms and apartments you are comparing, it's impossible to help much further.
no, not the norm at all, hence all the curfuffle above.
I'm not clear about why you are so reluctant to post the links to these places - there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation for this discrepancy, but without the links we can't tell what it is. worst case would normally be that the 2 options break even, but you get so much space and freedom with an apartment, plus the option to eat in etc. that it's usually the better option.
we're not trying to pry, but without knowing which hotel rooms and apartments you are comparing, it's impossible to help much further.
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For heaven's sake - I looked at Venere, put in 3* and rooms between 150 and 200/night. There is no reluctance to post the names but if you insist: in rome - fellini, Hotel Del Corso, Condotti Palace. in London - Pasha, West Cromwell and St Georges.
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yes, but what sorts of rooms and with which apartments were you comparing them?
and i may have missed it, but which time of year are we dealing with?
links aren't difficult and you must have used them to check the prices.
here's one to start you off:
http://www.fellinibnb.com
now i can see that it's a B&B near the Trevi, offering double rooms with ensuite bath for between €120-€200 per night - here are the prices:
http://www.fellinibnb.com/gue.asp [NB, I've only looked at the en suite option as I think that this is closest to what you get with an apartment. they have rooms with shared bathrooms and external private bath that are cheaper -which could account for the price differential you are finding].
now, if you can show us the equivalent apartment you are looking at, we MIGHT be able to answer your question.
and i may have missed it, but which time of year are we dealing with?
links aren't difficult and you must have used them to check the prices.
here's one to start you off:
http://www.fellinibnb.com
now i can see that it's a B&B near the Trevi, offering double rooms with ensuite bath for between €120-€200 per night - here are the prices:
http://www.fellinibnb.com/gue.asp [NB, I've only looked at the en suite option as I think that this is closest to what you get with an apartment. they have rooms with shared bathrooms and external private bath that are cheaper -which could account for the price differential you are finding].
now, if you can show us the equivalent apartment you are looking at, we MIGHT be able to answer your question.
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Here are your London (Venere) hotel links, since it seems maybe you do not know how to post links:
http://www.venere.com/inns/london/st-georges-hotel/
http://www.venere.com/hotels/london/hotel-pasha/
http://www.venere.com/hotels/london/...romwell-hotel/
We still don't know what apartments you have looked at - can you tell us? It's really hard to help you if we don't have all of the info, sorry
http://www.venere.com/inns/london/st-georges-hotel/
http://www.venere.com/hotels/london/hotel-pasha/
http://www.venere.com/hotels/london/...romwell-hotel/
We still don't know what apartments you have looked at - can you tell us? It's really hard to help you if we don't have all of the info, sorry
