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ottonc Dec 17th, 2003 04:29 PM

daytime train Munich to paris?
 
does anyone know of train travel other than night to paris? all the schedule shows is nightime. Maybe a bus would be better but longer.

Myer Dec 17th, 2003 04:40 PM

There are many trains from Munich to Paris.
Try the following:

http://www.bahn.de/pv/view/int_guest...l_guests.shtml

They seem to leave about every hour on the half hour and take about 8 1/2 hours.

bob_brown Dec 17th, 2003 06:54 PM

While there are many connections from Munich to Paris, only one during normal business hours requires no changes of train. That one leaves Munich at 8:43 and arrives at Paris Gare de l'Est at 17:14. It is also the train with the best travel time: 8 hours and 31 minutes on the schedule. The train is EC 86.

Stock up with a good book or your favorite CDs, fresh batteries, and something to eat and drink and enjoy the trip.

At least

The route is through Stuttgart and Karlsruhe. Once it leaves Nancy Ville, it does not stop until it get to Paris.

At least one thing about EC 86, you do not have to worry about sleeping through your change of trains.

I think you will find the Munich train station well laid out. The tracks are well marked. I have taken trains in and out of there several times and never gave it much thought, other than making sure the train I was boarding was indeed the one I wanted.


Betsy Dec 17th, 2003 07:06 PM

My husband and I took the train from Munich to Paris on the last leg of a five-week European trip two years ago. We left Munich on the early morning train that Bob mentioned above and enjoyed having the day to relax, read, chat, and munch. We arrived in Paris ready for all that wonderful city has to offer. Go for it!

ben_haines_london Dec 17th, 2003 08:13 PM

I think it likely that with changes you can make this journey hourly through the day, as Myer says. The reference library of a city near you may have the Thomas Cook European Timetable. Table 32 shows the simpler journeys, direct or with just one change. All three trains from Munich have restaurant cars, and the 1147 from Strasbourg has a buffet car

Munich 0643, Strasbourg 1101 to 1147, Paris 1608
Munich 0843, Paris 1714, choice of Mr Brown and Betsy
Munich 1243, Paris 2124

And the night train you know of: Munich 2054, train with 1, 2 and 3 berth sleepers and 4 and 6 berth couchettes, Paris 0707. A bistro car on this night train offers snacks. For dinner, leave Munich at 2040, dine on board, and change at Augsburg at 2117 or Ulm at 2202 to your sleeper at the same platform about 17 minutes later.

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JonJon Dec 17th, 2003 08:38 PM

Actually, the train departing at 8:43 AM is EC 66, not 86; another possibility is taking the 7:31 AM ICE to Cologne where you change (6 minutes between trains) to a highspeed Thalys (#9436) which arrives in Paris at 4:05 PM (this latter requires seat reservations whether using passes or not). All-in-all as others have posted you have a lot of possibilities unless you'd rather take a cheap flight between the two cities.

dixon Dec 18th, 2003 06:34 AM

Cataracts strike again. It is 66.

There is also a remark that says please reserve. The detailed notes say that you need a reservation from Strasbourg to Paris. I suspect that it is because at that point the train becomes French.

I know that on the trips from Paris to Lausanne, the snack car closes at Frasne and Swiss officials come on board and the French ones get off.

The Swiss even check passports upon occasion.

I don't think there is any check between Germany and France.

ben_haines_london Dec 19th, 2003 12:57 PM

On none of the day trains that I list need you reserve, even from Strasbourg. Switzerland is outside the European Union, and that may affect staff in a buffet car: on the rfoute Munich, Strasbourg, Paris there is no such effect. Any government may decide to check passports, but normally there is no such check between Germany and France.

Ben Haines


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