Cream tea
Jun 12th, 2014, 02:58 AM
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Cream tea
Fighting talk here. I love clotted cream http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...jam?CMP=twt_gu
Jun 12th, 2014, 12:42 PM
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"<i>you might as well go the whole hog and have tinned peach slices with evap. milk. And a plate of winkles.</i>"
Patrick, along with a wise traveler you are a masterful guardian of proper culture.
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Jun 15th, 2014, 01:01 AM
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If you are going to have tinned peaches, and maybe mandarin oranges, with evaporated milk, then you ought to have jelly. That will require sandwiches (jam or paste), which will need to be eaten before you can indulge in the fruit, or terrible things might happen.
Does anyone offer such a real retro tea?
Just to name drop, we had a cream tea (with champagne) after a tour of the gardens at Highgrove recently. They served clotted cream. Whipped cream sounds like a London thing and terribly ersatz.
One phenomenon of the past 50 years is the eastward and northward drift of the cream tea. They used to be confined to Devon and Cornwall, but now every English county seems to have its genuine cream tea. I saw one in Worcestershire last Sunday, as an alternative to lardy cake.
Does anyone offer such a real retro tea?
Just to name drop, we had a cream tea (with champagne) after a tour of the gardens at Highgrove recently. They served clotted cream. Whipped cream sounds like a London thing and terribly ersatz.
One phenomenon of the past 50 years is the eastward and northward drift of the cream tea. They used to be confined to Devon and Cornwall, but now every English county seems to have its genuine cream tea. I saw one in Worcestershire last Sunday, as an alternative to lardy cake.
Jun 15th, 2014, 01:14 AM
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With winkles, you are moving into high tea. We sometimes had them but shrimps were more common. A man would come up the road shouting "Harwich shrimps!" He measured them using a pint mug and he was always followed by a procession of cats
Jul 12th, 2014, 06:22 AM
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just found this.
in Cornwall you should eat your clotted cream on a "split" with golden syrup; it's called thunder and lightening. there is also the famous Saffron loaf, which features as a "tea treat" which is like a large flat bun, served to children at the annual church afternoon celebration or "feast".
And as well as the famous pasties, my neighbour [along with many others] makes a flat cake/biscuit called "heva" or heavy cake. it's made with lard which is what made me think of it:
http://lobbsfarmshop.wordpress.com/r...nne/heva-cake/
in Cornwall you should eat your clotted cream on a "split" with golden syrup; it's called thunder and lightening. there is also the famous Saffron loaf, which features as a "tea treat" which is like a large flat bun, served to children at the annual church afternoon celebration or "feast".
And as well as the famous pasties, my neighbour [along with many others] makes a flat cake/biscuit called "heva" or heavy cake. it's made with lard which is what made me think of it:
http://lobbsfarmshop.wordpress.com/r...nne/heva-cake/
Jul 12th, 2014, 06:42 AM
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Whipped cream? <i>Whipped</i> cream?? <b>Whipped</b> cream??? That is rank heresy - where is the Inquisition? And just where <b>has</b> the Guardian been eating?
Admitedly, I haven't lived in England in decades, but I grew up there, and I usually have scones (rhymed with cones) and clotted cream at least once every time I visit, and I have never even <b>seen</b> whipped cream with scones, never mind eaten it. Nor would I think of drinking champagne with them, although in my case it would be coffee, not tea.
I do agree with raspberry rather than strawberry, and definitely split the scone horizontally and eat the halves separately, they're not hamburgers.
annhig - haven't heard of thunder and lightning, it sounds a bit too sweet for me.
Admitedly, I haven't lived in England in decades, but I grew up there, and I usually have scones (rhymed with cones) and clotted cream at least once every time I visit, and I have never even <b>seen</b> whipped cream with scones, never mind eaten it. Nor would I think of drinking champagne with them, although in my case it would be coffee, not tea.
I do agree with raspberry rather than strawberry, and definitely split the scone horizontally and eat the halves separately, they're not hamburgers.
annhig - haven't heard of thunder and lightning, it sounds a bit too sweet for me.
Jul 12th, 2014, 09:16 AM
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thursdaysd - i agree about the thunder and lightening - far too sweet for me too.
as for the whipped double cream instead of clotted - not just an aberration but it doesn't work either. if you don't whip it enough it falls off the scone, if you whip it enough to stay put it becomes grainy - just what the author of the article says she doesn't like about clotted cream, which, IMO has exactly the right consistency to stay on the scone [which I agree should be pronounced like "throne" and "bone"].
and definitely served with tea, preferably indian [or ceylon]. Jam first, then cream, and the halves served and eaten separately. delish.
as for the whipped double cream instead of clotted - not just an aberration but it doesn't work either. if you don't whip it enough it falls off the scone, if you whip it enough to stay put it becomes grainy - just what the author of the article says she doesn't like about clotted cream, which, IMO has exactly the right consistency to stay on the scone [which I agree should be pronounced like "throne" and "bone"].
and definitely served with tea, preferably indian [or ceylon]. Jam first, then cream, and the halves served and eaten separately. delish.
Jul 12th, 2014, 09:53 AM
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"With winkles, you are moving into high tea."
I've never, ever, had "tinned peaches, and maybe mandarin oranges, with evaporated milk" - with or without jelly (though definitely with trifle offered if we were lucky - unless serious savoury food - maybe paste or Heinz Sanwich Spread sandwiches, maybe cold meat, maybe a slice of gala pie - was being served at the same time.
Never with daintified sandwiches, never with a cake stand, never called "afternoon tea", and always served at a meal table.
If eaten at home, called "tea" - though if in a cafe or hotel, the caterer often called it High Tea.
I've never, ever, had "tinned peaches, and maybe mandarin oranges, with evaporated milk" - with or without jelly (though definitely with trifle offered if we were lucky - unless serious savoury food - maybe paste or Heinz Sanwich Spread sandwiches, maybe cold meat, maybe a slice of gala pie - was being served at the same time.
Never with daintified sandwiches, never with a cake stand, never called "afternoon tea", and always served at a meal table.
If eaten at home, called "tea" - though if in a cafe or hotel, the caterer often called it High Tea.
Jul 12th, 2014, 10:38 AM
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In our family, during the 1950s on the south coast, we always had to eat bread in some way before we were allowed tinned fruit or cake. Wages were lower in the south at that time.
We never routinely used a cake stand, although we probably had one "for best". Many members of the family had been in domestic service in Edwardian times, and such things were passed on to the staff as middle class homes were broken up.
Real cream was hard to get in the 50s, so we had a machine which made cream from milk and unsalted butter.
Gala pie was unknown. Some relatives supplied shop bought cakes, but my mother baked her own in industrial quantities.
We never routinely used a cake stand, although we probably had one "for best". Many members of the family had been in domestic service in Edwardian times, and such things were passed on to the staff as middle class homes were broken up.
Real cream was hard to get in the 50s, so we had a machine which made cream from milk and unsalted butter.
Gala pie was unknown. Some relatives supplied shop bought cakes, but my mother baked her own in industrial quantities.
