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Old Mar 7th, 2020, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by menachem View Post
Do you see that happening anywhere else in the world?.
Well, it just happened in Italy for 14 million people, and in the whole country all cinemas, museums and theatres are closed until at least April 3.
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Old Mar 7th, 2020, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kerouac View Post
Well, it just happened in Italy for 14 million people, and in the whole country all cinemas, museums and theatres are closed until at least April 3.
A good deal less draconic than the response in China, Kerouac, and therefore: less effective, as we'll find out in the coming weeks.

https://www.businessinsider.nl/coron...onal=true&r=US
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Old Mar 8th, 2020, 07:53 PM
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Keep safe everyone!
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Old Mar 9th, 2020, 11:52 PM
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Thanks for the links MaineGG. Our trip is scheduled for early September. We have our plans pretty much in place but will now wait another month or so to book our flights.
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Old Mar 12th, 2020, 08:41 PM
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Since yesterday, France went from 2284 to 2876 cases and from 48 deaths to 61, so things are definitely speeding up here.
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Old Mar 13th, 2020, 06:38 AM
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Menachem's point about not traveling is important. Here in Belgium it seems that after the spring holidays, people brought the virus from Italy. The cases I know of in my area, are all people who went skiing in Northern Italy the week of Feb 24, or those who have been in contact with them. These are people who knew about the virus, were careful, washed hands often, used hand gel. They still got it.
I know someone who was in Milan last week and is now in NY, enjoying the restaurants and bars there, as is evident from her social media. Not wearing a mask to protect New Yorkers from the virus she may have picked up in Italy, since of course that looks terrible on instagram..

Everything is in lock-down here now; schools closed from Monday, restaurants closed until beginning April, all events cancelled.
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Old Mar 13th, 2020, 08:38 AM
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I've still got my fingers crossed for my July trip. There are conflicting reports, but, on balance, I think warmer weather is going to help knock it down--the question is how soon. I know this sounds a little counterintuitive, but it seems that the best thing that could happen is for the virus to be exposed to the population right at the point where weather will serve to knock it down. From a public health standpoint, have a significant segment of the population contract the virus and recover will help prevent a repeat come next winter. They just can't afford for it to get completely out of hand.
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Old Mar 13th, 2020, 09:25 AM
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We had planned 3 weeks in May between London, Barcelona and Paris but will most probably cancel. Want to wait a couple of weeks to decide...
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Old Mar 13th, 2020, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Macross View Post
May 22 is our flight, we are just waiting it out.

Mine is the same week, a few days later. I just booked an Airbnb in Aix-en-Provence for mid June. I can cancel before end of May though. But I'm pretty sure I made some non-refundable bookings as well.


My guess is that the level of infection in Europe, with the exception possibly of Lombardy, is no worse than it is here in the US, where there hasn't been sufficient testing so I think the official number of reported cases is erroneously low.

In particular, I live in Santa Clara County, one of the places of outbreaks. The other day, former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb, said we have to use social distancing measures in the areas of outbreaks. He named Seattle and my county. He said don't go to malls, churches and maybe don't even eat out.

So I can't imagine it's better here than in France. Also scheduled to go to Portugal in mid April.

Of course the main issue would be that I could be subject to quarantine on arriving to EU or on return from EU. If any EU countries impose quarantines, then it basically blows out my trips.

I also have bookings at the end of August, beginning of September for Corvara, Selva and Verona. I'm going to be optimistic that Italy will be over the worst of it by late summer.
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Old Mar 13th, 2020, 03:42 PM
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Our flight is April 26, and our PM today recommended against all non-essential travel.

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Old Mar 14th, 2020, 06:40 AM
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We're at the wait and see stage. We're scheduled to leave May 25 and I'm still somewhat hopeful but I am fully prepared that it may not happen.
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Old Mar 14th, 2020, 07:03 AM
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Forget it SUGARMAPPLE (even if there should still be direct flights from Canada to Paris in late April and even if Norvegian shouldn't have got bakrupt until then), most French virologist predict the peak for April/ or May.
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Old Mar 14th, 2020, 07:45 AM
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"weather will serve to knock it down."

Someone on this thread or elsewhere said it has been 32C/90F in Australia recently. I think it is still spreading there.

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Old Mar 14th, 2020, 07:49 AM
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My own journey to cancelling was: Shock, Denial and finally … Acceptance. It is difficult when you have made such an emotional and financial investment, but you need to get there.

BEST case scenario is that the Virus will peak in April/May, but that was based on news from two weeks ago and the situation is worsening hour by hour.

Easter will be cancelled - the Catholic church has already closed down churches in Italy, France and Ireland have banned all gatherings greater than 100, so likely all churches will be closed there also. I believe France has announced closure of attractions; if not will likely do so soon. Spain is in lockdown.

I have cancelled journeys for April. For May, I'd probably wait and see. I don't see it getting any better in May, but would wait for airlines to cancel in order to get a full refund. Some airlines will not be with us; e.g.. Norwegian is unlikely to survive this as they were already tottering on the brink of bankruptcy. Maybe the government will bail them out again.


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Old Mar 14th, 2020, 11:12 AM
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Full lockdown in France tonight starting at midnight (14 March). Cafés, restaurants, cinemas and non essential shops will be closed until further notice.
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Old Mar 14th, 2020, 11:38 AM
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Will grocery stores be open?

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Old Mar 14th, 2020, 11:51 AM
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Grocery stores are "essential" so they will be open. Also news kiosks, petrol stations, pharmacies… and tobacconists…. You'd think that in that case they would have included Nicolas but perhaps that counts as a grocery store.
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Old Mar 14th, 2020, 12:37 PM
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Last thing they should be doing is smoking when this is a pandemic of a respiratory disease.

Or do people have to buy bus tickets and top off their mobiles?

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Old Mar 14th, 2020, 01:09 PM
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Spain is also hit very hard in the last couple of days. I think that closing things down is the best thing to do right now. It's difficult to get a handle on this, it's a new virus so no immunity, and then they don't know IF you get it if you ARE immune there after. The Swine Flu is still included in the yearly flu vaccines in the US so ????????????

I feel so badly for everyone. The airlines and all who work for them, the shops the cafes that employ so many and also those who own the business. some investing their life in it for years. Just please be able to hang on. I am grateful I didn't have a trip planned this year.

I have a flight planned in the US on the 25th and have heard it is possible that domestic flights might be curtailed also. We just have to see where it goes and support people if we can. Stay healthy and safe everyone.
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Old Mar 14th, 2020, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by scrb11 View Post
Last thing they should be doing is smoking when this is a pandemic of a respiratory disease.

Or do people have to buy bus tickets and top off their mobiles?
I agree but it is true that you can also pay your taxes and traffic fines in a tabac.
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