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susant100 Apr 20th, 2004 07:24 PM

Coat and tie necessary at La Giostra Restaurant in Florence?
 
Haven't been able to confirm the dress code for men at La Giostra in Florence.

Is a coat/tie necessary? If so, it this for dinner only?

Thanks.

baldrick Apr 20th, 2004 10:35 PM

http://www.florence.ala.it/giostra/ will show you one rather casual atmosphere. http://www.ristorantelagiostra.com shows a slightly more 'dressed' atmosphere, in my opinion without being really 'formal'. The men have hung their jackets on the back of their chairs.
A tie will certainly be appreciated, but from the pictures I shouldn't say it is an absolute necessity.

Melissa1 Apr 22nd, 2004 05:01 AM

Wear a jacket, skip the tie. A white button down shirt and jacket are (almost) always elegant enough for most restaurants.

m_kingdom2 Apr 22nd, 2004 05:11 AM

My dear Melissa, button down shirts are the most casual collars available. They never look smart, always a mess. No designer (we're not talking Polo by Ralph Lauren here) features button down shirts in their collections. Wear a jacket, and if you are slim, a T-shirt in a plain colour by Prada (mainline), Jil Sander, Gucci.... i.e. one which is of a fine material, and for the evening a darker colour - certainly not white. If you feel more comfortable in a shirt, then any, what you Americans call "dress shirts" (although I take dress to mean evening wear) without a button down collar will do. A word of caution, if you do not wear a tie, a Cut-away or even mid-cut-away collar will look odd, therefore these are best avoided.

m_kingdom2 Apr 22nd, 2004 07:57 AM

Furthermore, a coat is an outer-garment, so a "coat and tie" refer to an overcoat and a shirt with a tie, even worse!

A jacket is a jacket and a coat is a coat, please note the distinction.

Ties are rarely required for dinner, let alone lunch. The Italians (we're talking under 50s) are masters of the Italian collar, i.e. one worn without a tie.

HelenR Apr 22nd, 2004 09:12 AM

We ate there last year (wonderful!) and another alternative that was seen would be a nice light sweater with a collared shirt underneath with nice slacks. The men's tops were less regimented than the bottoms. No Jeans! Nice dark slacks will do. I suppose it hasn't changed much and frankly, this restaurant is well-known for its hospitality so I don't think you would be made to feel out of place whatever you wore.

bobludlow Apr 22nd, 2004 09:37 AM

This is partially off-subject but I must disagree with m_kingdom2's sartorial advice. Italians have had a strange fascination with Brooks Brothers button-downs for decades now - so much so that the company is actually opening some stores in Milan. If I recall correctly, a few members of the Italian fashion elite used to love wearing them unbuttoned - the loose collars must have flopped elegantly, or something. I admit it is beyond me, but even in more conservative Florence no one would look askance at a button-down collar. The Italians are masters of breaking the rules of fashion with panache.

m_kingdom2 Apr 22nd, 2004 10:34 AM

Button down collars, however, do not feature in any contemporary Italian designers' collections. In the more classic collections, they feature as a button under so the buttons are all but invisible to the casual observer.

sgbslo Apr 22nd, 2004 10:58 AM

To get back to your question: I was there with a fairly large group for dinner. I'm sure none of the men in our group wore ties and I don't think all of us wore jackets. It is not an extremely formal place.
By the way, we really enjoyed dining there.

susant100 May 21st, 2004 01:43 PM

Just returned home last night. No tie or jacket necessary. Excellent restaurant, probably my favorite.


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