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Walker42 Mar 20th, 2013 02:07 PM

Cliff side abbey on the Mosel?
 
My Google powers have failed me so hopefully someone knows where this is.

I was looking through someone's flickr pictures a couple of months ago at their vacation photos from the Mosel Valley, and saw an abbey high up on the cliff side overlooking a town across the river, I think it may have been somewhere near Trier. It was an isolated spot with a beautiful small church/complex, sort of a hermitage. I was going to bookmark it but the fellow was visiting as a stop on a river cruise so I thought it must be a popular pace, but now I can not find it online!

It probably is very popular, but I'm stumped. Does anyone know where this is?

Thanks!

PalenQ Mar 20th, 2013 02:42 PM

Sounds yes like the old abbey or monastery or whatever on the north side of the Mosel opposite downtown Trier - a lovely walk up thru the woods or I believe their is a Sesselbahn (sp?) from the south bank in Trier to it. It is really in a sweet sylvan setting if that is the right one - I stayed off and on in Trier for years and being an inveterate jogger used to jog up that way often - nice walking/biking paths along the Mosel too though this stretch of the Mosel is not that scenic all in all.

Russ Mar 20th, 2013 08:09 PM

It's possibly the Felsenkirche in Idar-Oberstein, on the Nahe River, not all that far from Trier.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lsenkirche.jpg

Idar Oberstein occupies both sides of the river valley at that site.

Russ Mar 20th, 2013 08:15 PM

Might also be the Marienburg on the Mosel - not really a cliffside, but definitely a complex of buildings.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...g_Umgebung.jpg

http://www.zell-mosel.com/html/impressum/impressum.html

The Marienburg overlooks several towns:

http://www.ferienwohnung-mosel.com/i...chifffahrt.jpg

Walker42 Mar 21st, 2013 05:01 AM

Thank you both for your help. I realized I asked a very good question, because even though I don't think any of your guesses to my very vague question is the one I had seen, they are all interesting places for me to consider visiting as well!

Felsenkirche in Idar-Oberstein looks bizarre, the sort of place that keeps making me want more time on my trip!

I have some time before my trip and hope I can stumble again upon what I had seen. I'm not sure it is very near Trier, but it is on the Mosel. The buildings, including a medieval chapel or small church, were still intact. The boat tour this traveler was on seemed to emphasize the outstanding views of the river from the terrace of the buildings.

quokka Mar 21st, 2013 08:39 AM

Do you have a link to those photos so we can have a look at them?

Walker42 Mar 21st, 2013 12:37 PM

That is my problem, I did not bookmark the page. I'm still looking for it, but at the moment I'm distracted by the other end of my trip - trying to figure out what to do with a couple of days between Rothenburg and Strasbourg.

hetismij2 Mar 21st, 2013 12:55 PM

Are you sure it was an abbey, not a castle?

StCirq Mar 21st, 2013 01:04 PM

http://davidpratt.zenfolio.com/p5922...8E13F#h388e13f

???

Walker42 Mar 21st, 2013 01:06 PM

The narrative written by the traveler mentioned that it was an old religious community (probably not an abbey since google is not producing anything with that term) that brewed beer and sold it to the town across the river. I don't think it was a castle at any time, but I only saw the one trip report.

Walker42 Mar 21st, 2013 01:10 PM

Thanks StCirq, that's not it. This was a simple medieval structure - about that size though - made with local unadorned stone.

Can't wait to find it to see how close my memory matches reality. It's probably somewhere in Italy! :-) (just kidding)

Walker42 Mar 21st, 2013 02:05 PM

Klause Kastel.

Whew! Thanks hetismij2, for making me search for castles!

It's not a castle, as far as I can tell, btw.

Walker42 Mar 21st, 2013 05:02 PM

http://www.trier-info.de/klause-bei-kastel-info

quokka Mar 22nd, 2013 12:56 AM

Impressive! I had never heard of that building but looked it up now.

No, it is not a castle but a hermitage. Kastel is the name of the village, actually Kastel-Staadt ("false friends" lost in translation). The building in the photos is the burial chapel for King Johann of Bohemia, designed by Friedrich Schinkel in 1835 on the ruins of the medieval hermitage.

PalenQ Mar 22nd, 2013 08:36 AM

http://www.abteistmatthias.de/

Not Matthias Abbey, which peeks out over the Mosel from the western edge of Trier (I believe) -


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