Go Back  Fodor's Travel Talk Forums > Destinations > Europe
Reload this Page >

Cities, towns, places you would like to revisit and why

Cities, towns, places you would like to revisit and why

Jun 24th, 2015, 08:47 AM
  #21  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 6,226
Beginning 40 years ago, I have spent a total of over a year in Spain, none for business or school. My wife more.

We prefer Barcelona over Madrid for numerous reasons even though the museums in Madrid are far superior.

We will probably return to Spain in either 2017 or 2018 skipping Madrid and Barcelona, except for necessary connections. But one place that we will re-visit is San Sebastian/Donostia. Besides the food, it is a beautiful corner of the world. Also because there is family in and around Santiago, we will go there.

A few years ago, we decided to visit places we have never been, instead of visiting places where we have been, with the exception of Spain.

The one place I would I return gladly is Turkey. It is simply an overwhelming experience of the past and present with strange and beautiful landscapes and an under appreciated cuisine.
IMDonehere is offline  
Jun 24th, 2015, 09:34 AM
  #22  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 63
mama mia,

For me, nothing beats that Mediterranean light. I also appreciate colorful cities, not to mention both Roman and Greek antiquities. I'm in the planning stages of a trip for next year and am limited to about 10 days. There's so much of interest in Rome for me, both in and just outside of the city, it's tough to whittle it down.

I'm getting all kinds of opinions about Rome, so I don't want to set my expectations too high. I also don't want to do a whirlwind tour, you can't get the sense of a place by doing that besides I'm getting too old for it. 2-3 weeks--nice!
Rien63 is offline  
Jun 24th, 2015, 10:03 AM
  #23  
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,412
London.

"Why, Sir, you find no man, at all intellectual, who is willing to leave London. No, Sir, when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford."
— Samuel Johnson
laverendrye is offline  
Jun 24th, 2015, 11:24 AM
  #24  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 63
laverendrye,

What is it about London that you like? Enlighten me, I could surely be missing something.
Rien63 is offline  
Jun 24th, 2015, 12:09 PM
  #25  
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 131
I love London, I was there for school last summer, and I could go back again and again--I would move there in a heartbeat (given I had a king's ransom).

I found Copenhagen to be immensely likeable; life just seemed to work better there. The city is compact and scenic, though not stunningly beautiful, and you didn't feel as though you were one of throngs of tourists. The air feels crisp and clean; I've been twice, and I would love to go back. I feel similarly about Stockholm, though it is grander and more expensive.

I want to go back to Naples, I only passed through on my way to the Amalfi Coast, but I was fascinated by the place--the intensity was otherworldly, certainly not typically European.

Lastly, I took a trip to Vienna and Prague during Christmastime and it was magical. I want to go back to experience that seasonal magic--the gluhwein, the chesnuts, the greenery, the lights--it was very special.
smithgardner is offline  
Jun 24th, 2015, 12:38 PM
  #26  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 13,466
I am not tired of life (or Europe ),but returning to London is not a priority.

Generally , we prefer big cities ( although we live in one) with museums,
galleries, different neighbourhoods, vibrant street life, interesting
architecture ...
I am ready to leave almost any small town in a couple of days.
( as one poster said : " If after an hour of walking across town I end up in the same spot
I started from, I am out of there").
There are some lovely places I liked but have no reason to return to :
Stockholm, Lisbon, Venice, Granada, Dubrovnik, Edinbroug, Florence,
Prague, Ireland and more..
Spain remains the favorite including Madrid, Barcelona, Valencia,
Andalusia, the Basque Country.....Have not missed a yearly visit ( sometimes
twice) in the last eight years.
Why?
The mix of cultures and languages, variety of scenery, interesting architecture, great food and wine . I speak Castilian which makes it even more enjoyable.


.
danon is offline  
Jun 24th, 2015, 04:12 PM
  #27  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,402
The OP's comment that felt like she was home resonated with me. I had that reaction to both Amsterdam and Hong Kong.
HappyTrvlr is offline  
Jun 24th, 2015, 05:02 PM
  #28  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 63
smithgardner,

Another London fan. As I asked lavendrye, what is the draw for you?

Scandinavia as a whole seems very agreeable and civilized. My only issue is the cuisine, although I hear that the Danes are a little more progressive in this regard than Norway and Sweden. Bland with lots of dairy and nasty little fish--yeck. I could be wrong though.

I'm very curious about Naples but have to admit it intimidates the hell out of me. From what I understand it's pretty challenging. With all that history I'd still like to give it a go.
Rien63 is offline  
Jun 24th, 2015, 05:19 PM
  #29  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 63
danon,

As I commented earlier, I'm in the midst of planning a trip for next year and still haven't made the final decision on where to go. I really want to see Rome and have never been to Italy so I'll probably go there. At first I considered Paris, maybe somewhat because I feel I SHOULD see it and SHOULD visit a new and different country.

But as you mentioned, I absolutely love Spain and long to see Andalusia along with some other regions. My reasons are similar, food/wine, architecture, Spanish Baroque and Moorish in particular. Like the Moorish influence on the food too.
Rien63 is offline  
Jun 24th, 2015, 05:33 PM
  #30  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 63
happy trvlr,

Amsterdam and Hong Kong, two VERY different places. Any idea why you felt as you did?

As I said I had that feeling while in Crete hiking through Zakros Gorge on the east side of the island, just kind of swept over me. I had a similar experience at Mycenae but not as strongly. I'm not at all superstitious or anything like that, so it took me by surprise and is still a complete mystery.
Rien63 is offline  
Jun 25th, 2015, 02:29 AM
  #31  
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,412
Why London? I've been there many times and certainly hope to return. Its attractions for me include the theatre, music, buildings, museums, galleries, history and parks among others. I rarely visit London without taking in at least a play, an opera and a concert. I cited Johnson because I never tire of London. I could say much the same about Paris and Rome to a lesser extent.
laverendrye is offline  
Jun 25th, 2015, 06:14 AM
  #32  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,098
Paris (will be returning for 6th time next year-1st time with the kids). food, culture, big city,

Madrid is a favorite. I studied there for 6 months many moons ago and returned with DH 2 years ago. It is a capital city but is very walkable, with varied neighborhoods, great food and museums, and lovey people. I like the Spanish attitude and balance of work and life. I am also conversationsal in Catalan. Barcelona doesn't do it for me either. Love Sevilla and would happily return. Same with San Sebastian.

Have been to England and Scotland and the only place I would want to return to are the Yorkshire Dales-beautiful and haunting.

No desire to return to Rome or Milan or Lisbon but would return to Florence and perhaps Venice.
plambers is offline  
Jun 25th, 2015, 06:35 AM
  #33  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,429
You asked Germany, Austria, Switzerland Where?

The cities and the Alps. Germany I love Berlin and Munich but also smaller towns like Dresden for the history.
Austria I love Vienna but also the mountain areas and Switzerland the Berner Oberland area is a must see. The scenery is just so beautiful.
I just love Europe in general for the scenery and history.
London is also a favorite city of mine, so much to see and do.
MarthaT is offline  
Jun 25th, 2015, 07:56 AM
  #34  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,922
Sometimes I want to revisit a place simply because my first experience wasn't completely successful.

When we went to Lisbon we had terrible weather (non-stop rain) and we both got head colds. The grubbiness got to me. But I feel compelled to give it another chance because there were things I really did like--and with better weather, better health I would probably feel a lot differently.

Another place I want to return to is Rome. I enjoyed our first trip but with some caveats--I had read so much about pick pockets etc. that it made me distrustful and paranoid--unnecessarily so.

And we paid (a lot!) to have a tour of the Vatican Museum/St Peters because everyone said we should. Our guide was unaware of the museum's early closing so we only had the briefest visit--it burns me to this day because we didn't even set foot in the Pinacoteca which was my primary interest. So Rome is another place I'd like to try again.
outwest is offline  
Jun 25th, 2015, 09:54 AM
  #35  
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 281
Rien63:

On the Amalfi Coast, we went in May (2013) so it was before a real tourist crush. Weather was lovely: cool at night, fairly warm by day, and all the flowers were blooming and fragrant which made for especially nice visits to Villa Rufolo and Villa Cimbrone in Ravello. I would highly recommend May for a coastal experience, only caveat is that the sea water can be rough, so occasionally if you're based in Positano, they will not run the ferries to Capri.

While I don't get swept into the same heady emotions of loving Paris, I do really like London and appreciate the fact that I have annual business trips there. I feel about London how I feel about New York, my hometown: everything is there, accessible, at your fingertips, at pretty much anytime of day. Fantastic museums, diverse population, great food at a myriad of price points, river walks, nightlife (although New York's is better but I prefer clubs to bars), EXCELLENT urban green spaces. Add thousands of years of history that you can actually interact with on top of that. It's really an ideal city IMHO, solid, dependable, but so filled to the brim with options and activities, you could never exhaust all the offerings.

The big negative for London are the prices, but as a New Yorker, I'm used to paying a bit more for location and convenience.

Oh and London is so well connected to Europe and access to great daytrips in England/Wales as well.
inspiredexplorer is offline  
Jun 26th, 2015, 04:42 AM
  #36  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 63
plambers,

I was amazed by the difference between Barcelona and Madrid. The Barcelonans seem to have a different perspective on the work/life balance. The whole city moved at a faster pace than the more laid-back Madrid. Being from the Northeast US, Madrid was a breath of fresh air. From what I understand, Andalusia is even more relaxed.

I really appreciated that attitude in restaurants. It didn't take long for me to adjust to the fact that waiters leave you alone and don't try to get you out quickly because their income relies on tips. Sad fact here in the States, but that's another story! At first, and this was especially so in Greece, I got impatient waiting for my food, check, etc. but then I got it, waiters don't expect you to rush through your meal. Quite a learning experience when I realized just how much we rush around here in the US compared to some other countries.

Lisbon sounds intriguing, don't know much about the food though. How would you compare it to Spain?
Rien63 is offline  
Jun 26th, 2015, 05:09 AM
  #37  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 63
IMDonehere,

I'm jealous! I wouldn't turn down an invitation to go anywhere in Spain.


I don't know if this is true of every area of Spain, probably not in the Basque region, but I found the food to be very good for the money. The Basque restaurants were the most expensive. My boyfriend and I did the menu del dia almost every day for lunch and a light dinner around 9pm or so. We had one bad meal, but then it was really cheap so I guess you get what you pay for. I really like how waiters just plunk the wine bottle down on the table, you take what you want, and get charged a mere pittance for it!

As I said I haven't traveled extensively so I don't know if that's the case in Italy or France. From what I understand food in Paris and Rome can be pricey for what you get.

I tried to squeeze Istanbul into a Greece trip, but it was too much. Fascinating place, someday maybe!
Rien63 is offline  
Jun 26th, 2015, 05:33 AM
  #38  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 63
outwest,

Rome--pickpockets.

Seems the older I get the more this deters me. I wish it weren't the case, but I like to relax on my vacation not be constantly on guard. I hear Paris is rife with them, in tourist areas of course. The Louvre had to close sometime in the last year or so because there were so many pickpockets that I guess they didn't have enough security staff to handle them. The media can be so alarmist though, blow things out of proportion.

I had an instance in Barcelona, on the second day of my trip, where someone tried to stop me by shoving some photo in my face which I never saw because I just kept walking. Nothing came of it, but I have to say it colored the rest of my trip a bit. We were also warned by a Barri Gotic tour guide to be careful on Las Ramblas, which I'd heard before but she was adamant about it. How can you not be paranoid?
Rien63 is offline  
Jun 26th, 2015, 06:21 AM
  #39  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,922
Rien63--I don't really worry about it anymore. I have a coat that has two inside zippered pockets and I keep my valuables there. Or, if it's too warm for that, I use a money belt.

We generally travel in off-season which makes it easier (less crowds) and, of course, use basic common sense as you would in any large city (it's a cliché but it's true).
outwest is offline  
Jun 27th, 2015, 04:42 PM
  #40  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,402
You asked why I felt "home" in Amsterdam and Hong Kong, a strange duo. I have some Dutch ancestry so perhaps that was the reason in Amsterdam, probably the answer. also, grew up in NY, the dormer New Amsterdam. Many location names were familiar.
As soon as we flew into Hong Kong, I could see myself living there for so many reasons.urban, beautifu, high energy, exotic mix of people. So more that I could live there than being " home."
HappyTrvlr is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy -

FODOR'S VIDEO

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:22 AM.