Cigarette Ripoff at Les Deux Magots

Aug 15th, 2007, 12:44 PM
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Is it possible, since this was the first pack you had purchased in France, that you were expecting the same Marlboro's that are for sale in the US? As noted above, the French ones are quite different than those sold here. Different tobacco, etc. I find them stronger than those here in the US.
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Aug 15th, 2007, 01:07 PM
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Perhaps just quitting the evil weed would be a grand idea eh? I and many others have and we all feel better, smell better, look better, and have more money to waste on other vices like good wine and beer. The smelling better and looking better parts are exciting as well ...
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Aug 15th, 2007, 01:13 PM
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To put things in perspective:
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Aug 15th, 2007, 01:14 PM
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"PalenQ, don't you think the homeless have enough to contend with wearing a Prada jacket from 4 seasons ago without having to worry about tainted ciggies?"

Geez ThinGorjus, way to make me spurt my designer water all over the keyboard laughing!
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Aug 15th, 2007, 02:15 PM
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Yes, do read the Phillip Morris report. It seems the counterfeit cigs are a big problem everywhere. Not too place blame on one country, but it seems many are being imported from China. It is likely that what I purchased was such an item. The girl may or may not have known she was selling counterfeits. I am taking the position that Les Deux likely did NOT know, since they would have a lot at stake here. I have sent them an email just to let them know.
SO, I think the cigs were counterfeit, and I did purchase others later in Paris and Italy, and they were fine.

As for suggestions for quitting...maybe next time...I am thinking of it...
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Aug 15th, 2007, 04:15 PM
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You can obtain cigarettes safely and legally at tobacco shops throughout Paris.

There is a new product available by prescription in France, the name of which now escapes me, which (according to what I've been told) is vastly more successful at helping smokers to quit than the standard nicotine patches and gums. Apparently it interferes with the effect of nicotine on the body in such a way that both the pleasure and desire for nicotine are dramatically reduced. Unfortunately, I heard of this only in a passing conversation with someone in the medical profession and I didn't retain the details.
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Aug 15th, 2007, 05:47 PM
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Yes, we did learn in France and Italy to look for the T for tobacco shops.
We had purchased cigarettes in the UK at regular newstands, etc. with no problems. I guess I am still a bit surprised that the counterfeits were being sold in the restaurant, but I do not blame them.

I think the stop smoking prescript is having a lot of success. My sister-in-law is a pharmacist here in the states, and I do believe it is being used here as well.

But then the whole stop smoking issue is for another thread, another day..
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Aug 15th, 2007, 08:33 PM
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I would really doubt if Deux Maggots is going to fool around with counterfeit cigarettes - they already make enough on their espresso.
I think it more than likely you purchased one of the two new Marlboro smokes introduced into Europe, Marlboro Wides or Marlboro Filter Plus. The later is manufactured in Indonesia and the tobacco is mixed with cloves. As already mentioned their are different products produced for different markets.
Don't feel badly though... My Cohiba in Canada smokes completely different than the Cohiba (non Cuban) in the States.
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Aug 15th, 2007, 08:34 PM
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Thanks for posting this, I hadn't heard about counterfeit cigarettes before. The tone of some of the replies to the posts are surprising to me, maybe youngsters? Too bad, because it just makes for more crap to have to look through to find any useful information. Anyway, I know to stick to the tabacs now, so thanks again!
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Aug 17th, 2007, 04:50 PM
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Thanks Tumblingweed! It means a lot to know that the post actually can help someone.
Happy Travels!
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