A very important question regarding pronunciation
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A very important question regarding pronunciation
Mr. H. and I were recently arguing ( discussing ) the proper pronunciation of pastie. Especially for those from Cornwall, please let me know the correct way to pronounce it. Googling, I come up with two possibilities. Really?
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Thanks.I did realize I was referring to the plural form but really makes little difference. I had assumed you just added an 's' for sound and ' ies' in spelling the plural. So you have nasty pasties.
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It doesn't rhyme with nasty where I come from. Nasty has an ah sound, pasty has a short a, certainly in the SE of England. Some people keep to that ah sound and turn it into pahstee, just as they say plahstic, but the vast majority say pasty.
Never a long pay-stee pronunciation. That is something else entirely.
Never a long pay-stee pronunciation. That is something else entirely.
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I was always brought up to use the same shortish vowel as in "hat". Lengthening it to an "ah" sound seems a bit la-di-da to me. Though to be fair, in YouTube videos there's a spectrum of vowel sounds
https://youtu.be/KwFUOsA5MEo
https://youtu.be/Q26uIXh6vkU
https://youtu.be/lU64WSjq0Ro
I only recently heard of the stripshow version but I'm assuming strippers use a paste-y. It would be a real novelty act that used the Cornish version instead.
https://youtu.be/KwFUOsA5MEo
https://youtu.be/Q26uIXh6vkU
https://youtu.be/lU64WSjq0Ro
I only recently heard of the stripshow version but I'm assuming strippers use a paste-y. It would be a real novelty act that used the Cornish version instead.
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This website isn't always correct, but seems to support hetismij2's pronunciation of nasty and pasty: http://howjsay.com
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ok. i think that I'm as well qualified as any here to give my opinion.
I agree that using nasty as a comparison is potentially misleading because of possible variations in pronunciation of the A. Indeed if I were to say "that's a nasty pasty" the As in nasty and pasty would not sound the same.
IMO Pat and Hets are right - it's pAsty as in Hat, with the stress on the A. The y is a standard y sound as in "likely", "possibly" or even "bigly".
There are some local variations, but that's only because of their way of pronouncing an A; it's not the "right" way to pronounce it unless you pronounce all short As that way.
BTW, the singular is "pasty", the plural "pasties" but the sound of the A remains the same.
I agree that using nasty as a comparison is potentially misleading because of possible variations in pronunciation of the A. Indeed if I were to say "that's a nasty pasty" the As in nasty and pasty would not sound the same.
IMO Pat and Hets are right - it's pAsty as in Hat, with the stress on the A. The y is a standard y sound as in "likely", "possibly" or even "bigly".
There are some local variations, but that's only because of their way of pronouncing an A; it's not the "right" way to pronounce it unless you pronounce all short As that way.
BTW, the singular is "pasty", the plural "pasties" but the sound of the A remains the same.
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Pass T
There's no R in bath, nasty, pasty, latte.
God I hate that one.
"Can I get a lartte".
What is "can I get"
What is "lartte"
Bloody youth of today.
My father travelled the length and breadth of Cape Cod for two weeks wondering why he was asked whether he wanted "budder" with his scones.
He amswered twice that he was Church of England.
There's no R in bath, nasty, pasty, latte.
God I hate that one.
"Can I get a lartte".
What is "can I get"
What is "lartte"
Bloody youth of today.
My father travelled the length and breadth of Cape Cod for two weeks wondering why he was asked whether he wanted "budder" with his scones.
He amswered twice that he was Church of England.
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Nothing to do with the pronunciation, but I think the word "nasty" truly describes the pasty. Having spent some time in Cornwall, and tried a variety of them, I would never willingly eat another. The shortbread crust is nice enough if the pasty is fresh from the oven, but the potato/swede/lard/hint of meat combination that is inside is simply horrid, IMHO.
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You can't have had a good one.
They were designed by the wives of tin miners ( Ann correct me if I'm wrong( your heritage not mine)) to provide a full meal for their husbands when underground.
When cooked correctly with a right thickness of pastry, the lamb Cornish pasty is one of the worlds great dishes.
Produced badly, and yes, I wouldn't give it to my Working Cocker Spaniel.
Did you buy yours from our national chain : Greggs?
You can't have had a good one.
They were designed by the wives of tin miners ( Ann correct me if I'm wrong( your heritage not mine)) to provide a full meal for their husbands when underground.
When cooked correctly with a right thickness of pastry, the lamb Cornish pasty is one of the worlds great dishes.
Produced badly, and yes, I wouldn't give it to my Working Cocker Spaniel.
Did you buy yours from our national chain : Greggs?