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annhig Dec 13th, 2015 02:12 AM

Quite Patrick, except that IME chutneys tend to be smoother than Branston, which is a sort of cross between the two - sweet like a chutney but crunchy like a pickle.

bilboburgler Dec 13th, 2015 02:50 AM

Branston is what happens when chutney and pickle meets a marketeer,

1) more flavour, (add salt)
2) more crunch, (cook less and chop less)
3) more attractive (add sugar)
4) Lower cost (see above)
5) Higher price (add adverts)

If Western world standards can be seen anywhere it can be seen in Branston pickle, a bit like Kraft (a tasteless cheese maker) buying Cadburies and improving the brand so that Americans now have to buy British imports to get around the c&&p.

chartley Dec 13th, 2015 03:28 AM

I am with Bilbo. I cannot imagine using Branston pickle in a sandwich, as it's far too lumpy and also likely to ooze a vinegry brown liquid over your hands. There are far better chutneys and pickles available with a smoother consistency, although they do cost more.

The Branston brand is now owned by Mizcan, a Japanese company.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branston_brand

annhig Dec 13th, 2015 03:51 AM

I wasn't saying I liked it [though I don't mind it with a pub ploughmans, if that's all that's on offer], I was trying to explain what it looks and tastes like.

It actually works quite well in a tongue sandwich; I don't like cheese sandwiches at all, with or without chutney, though I like cheese and bread.

PatrickLondon Dec 13th, 2015 04:21 AM

FWIW I live right next to where they used to make PanYan pickle, if anyone remembers that.

annhig Dec 13th, 2015 04:47 AM

vaguely, Patrick - I had to look it up:

http://www.food.com/recipe/a-british...-pickle-246663

chartley Dec 13th, 2015 04:49 AM

Are you some sort of hipster, Patrick? Does living near a pickle factory confer some sort of authenticity for Londoners?

annhig Dec 13th, 2015 04:59 AM

Does living near a pickle factory confer some sort of authenticity for Londoners?>>

of course - people used to queue up to live near the Walls sausage factory in Edmonton!

[in looking for that, found this fascinating website featuring the London that tourists [hope they] don't see:

http://www.derelictlondon.com/north-...arehouses.html ]

PatrickLondon Dec 13th, 2015 05:12 AM

>>Are you some sort of hipster, Patrick? <<

No, I don't suit a man-bun. And Broadway Market is so <i>over</i>.

Cathinjoetown Dec 13th, 2015 10:22 AM

God, turning Branston pickle into a lecture on Western mores.

It "works" just fine in a sandwich or if your sensibilities are offended by large junks or possible run- off, there's a small chunk version.

pariswat Dec 13th, 2015 11:52 AM

Having been raised in a civilized country (not an island and 'overthere' accross the ocean), I'm not into pickles a lot.

I ate relish sauce about 3 times in my life (mostly in Canada), and have some pickles on my 'sandwich au pâté'.
I've never really eaten cheddar, the ones I tried had no taste for me.

Now I've rediscovered pickles in Krakow, and I buy 'ogorki'.

I'll try some magic buns with some pickles, cheddar, pickle.
I hesitate on the olive oil - an european touch ?

bilboburgler Dec 13th, 2015 11:56 AM

Having been raised in a civilized country (not an island and 'overthere' accross the ocean)

I thought you're Belgian? :-)

annhig Dec 13th, 2015 11:56 AM

I've never really eaten cheddar, the ones I tried had no taste for me.>>

in that case you've probably never had a proper one, Pariswat. the best are definitely full of taste, and quite sharp.

I can't see it really going with olive oil but whatever floats your boat!

bilboburgler Dec 14th, 2015 05:18 AM

good point ann, I can't stand Edam, even old Edam and I've just assumed they were rubbish,...... still do :-)

annhig Dec 14th, 2015 10:00 AM

Bilbo - I'm not that fond of Edam either but I'm not sure that we get the good stuff here.

janisj Dec 14th, 2015 10:21 AM

I do like a nice smoked Edam -- but otherwise why bother ;)

hetismij2 Dec 14th, 2015 10:31 AM

There is no good Edam. It looks and tastes like rubber.

Bedar Dec 14th, 2015 10:55 AM

OK, so a Ploughman's Lunch is some Cheddar, nice crusty bread, butter, and a small, pickled onion ? Anyway, that's how I remember it at my local in the New Forest. Perhaps it's different in other places ?

annhig Dec 14th, 2015 11:46 AM

Bedar - that's the general idea. sometimes you have choice of cheese, often you get some chutney as well as a picked onion, sometimes you get a salad "garnish".

hetismij2 Dec 14th, 2015 12:23 PM

Not that a ploughman would recognise it as lunch. It was invented in the 1950s to promote eating cheese I believe.
The start of food in pubs though.


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