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Ginger Dec 6th, 2001 05:17 PM

Changing trains - nightmare or piece of cake?
 
I see that the schedule for our train from Venice to Stuttgart has a train change in Milan that only allows 20 minutes from arrival to departure. That seems like it might be difficult to accompolish. Should I schedule differently? Do you get help with baggage? We are traveling 1st class.

greg Dec 6th, 2001 05:59 PM

20 min is usually plenty IF your train arrives on time. Ask the conductor who comes to check your ticket if he knows which track your next train departs in Milan. Regarding 1st class, it makes it HARDER since there are less 1st class cars so you have to find them.

ron Dec 6th, 2001 06:10 PM

the only help you get is the use of your own hands. Be quick and move your luggage to the door and when and if the doors open move on out. If your the one opening the doors remember on these trains you open the doors

Bob Brown Dec 6th, 2001 06:31 PM

Even in the largest stations, 20 minutes is more than enough. Of course I am assuming that your are fully ambulatory and can move your own luggage. We have changed trains in Bern, Z&uuml;rich, and Salzburg with no trouble. Z&uuml;rich is a large station on more than one level, so we had to move it. But the SBB web site had already told us which track our connecting train was on, so it was just a question or moving from A to B. <BR>Salzburg is a busy station, without a large number of platforms. But the information is clearly posted.<BR>If you are running a little slow, and the trains do leave promptly, get on any car and then find your way to your seats.<BR>You cannot dawdle, but the time you state should be adequate.<BR>

Santa Chiara Dec 6th, 2001 09:00 PM

I recently had a 15 minute change in Milan. Our train was about five minutes late arriving. I arrived on the track at one end of the station and, of course, our train was not only at the other end but over a little bit more behind the building. By running flat out (with suitcase), we barely made it. We hopped on the first car as the doors were closing, and then made our way through about 15 more cars before coming to our seats. <BR><BR>Usually 20 minutes would be adequate, if the trains run on time, if you don't have a lot of luggage, if the tracks aren't widely separated. If you are the nervous type about this sort of thing, I would recommend allowing a little more time. <BR><BR>Please note: these comments relate only to the Milan train station and to the Italian train system, which was what the question was about. <BR><BR>I will also note that on returning, I had 20 minutes to change, my train arrived a few minutes early, and I had plenty of time.

David Dec 6th, 2001 09:09 PM

Ginger<BR><BR>Lets see now. An Italian train running on time. It does happen BUT it will most probably (from my own experience) be running late.<BR><BR>If it is running late them you will have to be very quick to get to your train to Stuttgart. This brings up the second problem - what platform will it be leaving from? In Milano there are approximately 20 Platforms (from memory) and IF Stuttgart is NOT where the Train is finishing then the Departure Board will have some other name there, for instance Cologne (Koln)(maybe!!) So finding the correct platform can be a problem. <BR><BR>Also, I notice that there is an earlier (7.00am) train to Stuttgart, that requires a change at Verona. As verona is only 1.5 hours from Venice the likelyhood of being delayed is very small. Also it gives you 35 minutes to find the correct platform. Maybe leaving 45 minutes earlier may just be worthwhile.<BR><BR>My last time through Milano Centrale I had 20 Minutes to change trains and only just made it in time - 2 minutes to be exact, and I was travelling 1st Class as well which means absolutely nothing once you are off the train.<BR><BR>David<BR>

joe Dec 7th, 2001 06:38 AM

You will have plenty of time.There are no underpasses to walk through, everythings on the same level.Also, many times, firstclass cars are located near the front of the train, making your walk from train to train even shorter.

GAC Dec 7th, 2001 08:33 AM

There are no underpasses at Milano Stazione Centrale. However, at Verona Porta Nuova you have to use the underpasses (stairs, no escalators) to transfer from one track to another.

marie Dec 7th, 2001 08:44 AM

On a recent trip from Munich to Prague had an 8 minute train change at Nuremburg. We were quite concerned about it, but did make it. Fortunately it was a small, uncrowded station but we did have to go down a long flight of stairs, across and back up carrying our bags. Not the most pleasant experience, but we make it. Second the statement that you can just get on the train and then find your car.

Ginger Dec 7th, 2001 09:17 AM

Thanks for you help.<BR>We plan to take David's suggestion and leave earlier.

richard j vicek Dec 7th, 2001 07:54 PM

Good evening, Ginger make sure that<BR>your train from Venice to goes to <BR>Milano Centrale providing it is the<BR>station from which the train leaves<BR>for Stuttgart. We had one experience<BR>a few years back when the train from<BR>Venice was supposed to go to Milano<BR>Centrale but was rerouted to one of the<BR>other stations in Milano and we had to<BR>take a short taxi ride to Centrale...<BR>Richard of LaGrange Park, Il...

Byrd Dec 8th, 2001 06:41 AM

Santa Chiara, your mention of making a train by jumping on the first car and walking the long distance to your own car reminded me of a close call we had in Luzern (all our fault--the Swiss train was, of course, on time!) We climbed aboard the first car just in time, and during the trek through the swaying cars we had to lift our luggage over a number of peacefully sleeping and totally undisturbed dogs! We are dog-lovers, so we were charmed by the whole thing.

Yolanda Dec 9th, 2001 12:55 PM

We recently had a train change in Milano with 10 minutes in between. Our trains were 10 tracks apart and we ran from one to the other through the crowds and missed the train because they closed the doors one minute early and would not allow us to board. I would think that 20 min between would be a much better situation. The tracks are all on the same level. Be sure to research and find out which tracks you are arriving and departing from. Each car is numbered (look on your ticket for yours). Generally there are no porters in Europe. You need to be prepared to carry your own luggage. Good luck. Hope you have a great trip.


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