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Fra_Diavolo May 30th, 2014 02:59 PM

Maybe, although he did shoot his first mate, Israel Hands (name used later by RLS in Treaure Island) in the knee, causing him to be evacuated from the ship. Ironically, this caused Hands to miss the final battle, one of the few survivors.

jaja May 30th, 2014 03:09 PM

I'm with Imdonehere. Higher standard or no, robbing is wrong. Along with the other bad things.

No pirate cartoons allowed at Granny's house.

nytraveler May 30th, 2014 04:57 PM

Anyone who confuses a Gilbert & Sullivan musical farce with Somali pirates - or any other real ones - has totally lost their sense of humor.

Probably don't like Robin Hood either. Maybe they root for the Sheriff of Nottingham and Price John!

jaja May 30th, 2014 07:34 PM

I'm not at all confused, and I have a sense of humor. I also reject glamorizing evil.

Peter_S_Aus May 30th, 2014 10:07 PM

Oh, FFS, it is a fancy dress parade.

Some people ...

IMDonehere May 30th, 2014 10:26 PM

NY Traveler, I do not think I have seen you tell one joke in all the years here. Thus accusing another of losing their sense of humor is, well, funny in the ironic pirate sense.

Ah, the comparison between Robin Hood and murdering, torturing, raping thugs. Yes, I can see the similarities.

And the same way I use Hollywood movies as my source of history, I use Gilbert & Sullivan. Nothing says annotated footnote like an G & S operetta, the quintessential Victorian diversion.

annhig May 31st, 2014 01:33 AM

Contrary to the modern-day picture of the traditional tyrannical pirate, he commanded his vessels with the permission of their crews and there is no known account of his ever having harmed or murdered those he held captive.">>

A radio programme I was listening to the other day was about the problems that the British Navy of 200 or so years ago had retaining its sailors because the conditions on the pirate ships of the day were so much better. hence the press gang.

I took the decision to ignore IMD earlier because his contribution appeared to me to be both silly and irrelevant; I have seen nothing to make me change my mind.

maitaitom May 31st, 2014 09:58 AM

I'm wondering if I should feel guilty now for liking the movie Pirate Radio.

((H))

annhig May 31st, 2014 10:07 AM

and as for Errol Flynn!

maitaitom May 31st, 2014 10:14 AM

"and as for Errol Flynn!"

...Swashbuckler Extraordinaire!

((H))

Fra_Diavolo May 31st, 2014 11:20 AM

I'm sorry to say that even in my mature years I take a lively interest in pirates, both historic and fictional. Sabatini's Blood, brought to the screen in Flynn's debut, is loosely based on the great buccaneer Sir Henry Morgan, an amoral man of outstanding ability, who ended his career as governor of Jamaica (and took advantage of his office to hang a few of his erstwhile colleagues).

I'm also a loyal fan of Gilbert and Sullivan.

IMDonehere May 31st, 2014 02:03 PM

Good one Tom

IMDonehere May 31st, 2014 02:06 PM

Yes, Ann, I can understand thinking facts are silly and irrelevant.

Too bad G & S are around today to do a snappy operetta of Captain Phillips complete with clever lyrics, memorial tunes, stereotypical characters, and colorful costumes.

IMDonehere May 31st, 2014 02:23 PM

There is a wonderful movie called My Favorite Year, where Peter O'Toole plays an Errol Flynn screen swashbuckler. Very funny and touching.

Fra_Diavolo May 31st, 2014 07:21 PM

Great performance in a charming movie.

dfourh May 31st, 2014 07:40 PM

I'm confused. I thought pirates were bad. If they are, I want to be on the record as disliking them. As well as anything else that is bad.

Not bad in the "Superfly" sense, mind you (that would be "camp", and those ethnic people know how to flaunt it I dare say!), but bad in the sense of being something morally reprehensible, which I am entirely against.

Just want to clarify this.

annhig Jun 9th, 2014 07:44 AM

At the risk of offending IMD, may I draw to your attention another event which might be of interest to those of a piratical or even just a nautical bent, the Falmouth International Sea Shanty Festival, this coming weekend:

http://www.falmouthseashanty.co.uk/

DS will be strutting his stuff as a member of one of the shanty groups, and we will be heading down there for part of the weekend to enjoy the music and the "craic" [no cornish equivalent of that irish word, sadly]. there may even be a few people dressed as pirates, though of course shanties were not only sung by them but by nearly all mariners certainly from europe, and there will be quite a few foreign groups there too.

I just hope that they don't ALL sing the Sloop John B!

IMDonehere Jun 9th, 2014 08:23 AM

Thank you for thinking of me.

annhig Jun 9th, 2014 01:11 PM

I didn't want to offend your delicate sensibilities again, IMD.

IMDonehere Jun 9th, 2014 01:20 PM

That would probably be done through the singing this time.


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