Bullfight in Madrid

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Feb 3rd, 2010, 02:29 PM
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Please read the following thread and particulary all the comments by Robert2533 and andonius. The latter gave incredibly detailed information about the procedures etc. at Las Ventas.

http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...-questions.cfm

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Feb 3rd, 2010, 03:56 PM
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Robert2533, if that was meant to be an apologia for bullfighting then you have failed miserably.

Eradication of a species? How do you think all the breeds of farm animals came about in the first place? If their meat is of such low quality then maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing.

How does four years of relative comfort justify a tortured death?

What do you mean by 'blood sports'? Cage fighting, boxing etc takes place between consenting adults.

And your last paragraph is complete hogwash. Dignified?
Bollocks.

Some years ago I watched a complete corrida on a Spanish TV station to see if I was mistaken. I wasn't, it was appalling. I genuinely don't understand how this 'entertainment' could appeal to anybody other than the emotionally retarded. Bullfighting is as noble as watching somebody taking a dump in public.
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Feb 3rd, 2010, 05:34 PM
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The OP asked a question and got an answer. That's what this board is all about.

'I genuinely don't understand how this 'entertainment' could appeal to anybody other than the emotionally retarded. Bullfighting is as noble as watching somebody taking a dump in public.'

I can easily cope with that. Hopefully it's being emotionally retarded that stops me from judging and condemning others. I'm very happy to say I enjoy bullfights. Very happy, indeed. Been to a few and look forward to going to more.
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Feb 3rd, 2010, 07:19 PM
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And now for the lighter side of bullfighting:After the bullfight one afternoon a guy goes into a restaurant near the bullring-La Casa Manolete. It is packed w/ bullfighting fans talking, smoking, yelling and eating. He notices a waiter wending his way through the crowd holding high a plate with 2 round balls the size of tennis balls/softballs, steam spiraling off them and covered w/ gravy. He calls the waiter over and asks what that delectable looking dish is. The waiter tells him that they are delicious "bool balls' and they are a specialty of the house. He tells him that after the bullfight the bull is eaten inc. the that part of the bull. The guy decides to try them and orders a plateful. The waiter apologizes and says they have no more for that day. They are limited to 12. So the guy says I will be back next Thursday for the "corrida" and I would like to order them today to make sure I get them next week. Next week comes and our friend goes to the restaurant gets the waiter's attention and reminds him of his order from the previous week. After a short wait here comes the waiter wending his way through the crowd with a plate held high. On the plate are two balls but only the size of maybe marbles. "What the...?" says the tourist. "That's not the way the plate looked last week!" "I'm sorry,sir," says the waiter, "sawntines the bool weens."
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Feb 3rd, 2010, 07:28 PM
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Well, I see someone's not in a quandary...
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Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:31 PM
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'I genuinely don't understand how this 'entertainment' could appeal to anybody other than the emotionally retarded. Bullfighting is as noble as watching somebody taking a dump in public.

I feel that way about The Bachelor.
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Feb 3rd, 2010, 11:15 PM
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Spain has a perfectly legal and regulated national sport, bull fighting, that they enjoy, and consider a form of art between a man and an animal. Some folks in other lands think the sport is barbaric, and disapprove.

I would think that some folks in the rest of the world could look with equal distaste at our sport of American football, where large men enthusiastically bash their heads and bodies against one another, resulting in trauma,concussion, and brain damage.

They have their customs and sports, we have ours. Calling their activities "emotionally retarded" is not only stupidly judgmental, it invites condemnation in return.

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Feb 3rd, 2010, 11:18 PM
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scobaboy,

If you are still concerned about fitting in at the bullfight, make sure to bring a white handkerchief, everyone else will have one.
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Feb 4th, 2010, 12:14 AM
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quote: "nukesafe on Feb 4, 10 at 02:15 AM
I would think that some folks in the rest of the world could look with equal distaste at our sport of American football, where large men enthusiastically bash their heads and bodies against one another, resulting in trauma,concussion, and brain damage."
To say nothing about boxing...
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Feb 4th, 2010, 12:19 AM
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Scobaboy:
I do not think you'll have problems to get to your seat if you are late, but you better be there at the beginning, it is worthy.
You can eat, drink and smoke (yes, smoke) during the corrida, but generally there's a short lapse between bulls 3 and 4 for the merienda, generally a bocadillo (do not try to make a paella ).
Around the bullring there are many places for drinks and tapas.
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Feb 4th, 2010, 12:31 AM
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nukesafe, American football or any other fast contact sport takes place between human volunteers. One side does not play because they are forced to and are crippled before taking to the arena. Likewise boxing, wrestling and so on.

Dogfighting still takes place in the UK well away from the public eye. If and when the participants are caught they are prosecuted. It's completely illegal and has been for years, although once it wasn't. Likewise cockfighting and bear baiting. It was a 'custom and sport'. Was that justification for it?

If somebody can explain the appeal of bull fighting I am always willing to change my mind. But 'legal' and 'traditional' alone won't cut it. And please don't claim the bull enjoys it.
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Feb 4th, 2010, 10:29 AM
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Well, we don't all have the ability to put ourselves in another's shoes and see their point of view, whether or not we agree with it.
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Feb 6th, 2010, 02:23 PM
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I have no interest in proselytizing. All I can say is that I attended a bull fight in southern France years ago. I enjoyed it. That's a fact.

Here is a news item of interest.
http://tinyurl.com/y89xbvd ¡ Ole ! .
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Feb 6th, 2010, 03:53 PM
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I've never seen them kill a bull in the South of France,
Thank goodness!
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Feb 6th, 2010, 07:57 PM
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The afternoon I was there they killed several bulls in the ring. Then the matadors pranced around the ring with the ears. Good show.
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