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Budapest, Prague and Vienna travel
We are planning a trip to these countries in the beginning of September. We are trying to decide if we should go on a tour our plan our own travel. Does anyone have an itinerary that they would suggest. How long in each country? Should we fly to each city or do the train?
Any advise would be greatly appreciated as well as hotels and not to miss sites. |
The places you mention are cities, not countries. Do you just want to see these 3 cities or do you want to see more? How much time do you have to do this trip?
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I did those three cities in September 2005, by train, self-guided. I am a seasoned train traveler and found the trains easy enough (though I was so complacent I got off at the wrong train station in Budapest - doh! - should have written down the actual station name). Doing it again, I'd most certainly do it the same way - but I was alone. if you are going as a group it gets cheaper to rent a car. I probably wouldn't fly, can't see how it would save you all that much time, what with airport security and shuttles to the airports and all.
Pick up a Rick Steves Eastern Europe book and see what appeals to you about each city/country and go from there. I loved Prague, found Budapest challenging but very interesting, was not excited about Vienna (but many others love Vienna). Going back, I'd love to see Prague again and maybe Budepest. Prague is just a fun city to wander around and absorb everything. Whatever you put on your agenda, be sure to put some "wander around and do nothing" time in there. |
At this time we want to see these 3 cities and possibly Saltzburg. We are planning 2 weeks.
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My wife and I made the "tri-city" trip in July 2006. We flew into Budapest (five nights, four days), travled by rail to Prague (six nights, five days), and, finally, by rail to Vienna (six nights, five days). The longer rail trip was about five hours, from Budapest to Prague (but not unpleasant), the shorter (about 3.5) from Prague to Vienna. We found good things to see in each of the three cities. Budapest gave us a nice walking tour along Andrassy, which generally runs southwest to northeast through the center of Pest, with a bit of strudel and iced coffee on the way and great swimming in the public baths at the northeast end. The great indoor Central Market was also an enjoyable attraction.
Prague is generally very charming (I'd suggest a compass to supplement your maps and help decipher travels along some of the streets which are inclined to change their names with some frequency). A wonderful tour of the Jewish Quarter; a performance (they happen every day, I think) of Dvorak's New World Symphony and Smetana's Ma Vlast at the Munipal House, an impressive musical venue with five concert halls); Wenceslas Square; the Mucha Museum and the Communist Museum; and, of course, Pilsner Urquell and the real Budweiser fresh and cold at the source were highlights. Vienna seems(and the Viennese I'm sure would be offended by this) to be the San Francisco of Central Europe: sophisticated, arty, and full of gustatory wonders. We particularly enjoyed the "The Third Man" tour (for film buffs like us), the Prater amusement Park with the Die Riesenrad (the large wheel) ferris wheel that plays a part in The Third Man, and our side trip (about an hour) by train from a downtown underground station to Baden where we took in an Austrian tradition, the performance of an operetta (fine singing, dancing and humor that transcended language differences) in Baden's Kurpark. I am a bit of a World War II, and its pre- and post-war eras so these three cities offered many cultural and historic connections. |
A little correction of the final sentence, above: I am a bit of a World War II student, amateur variety
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Hi; We did this 'independant' tour that was very nice. You can pick the level of hotels. All train tickets between cities are arranged. Includes half day tours of each city. Breakfast daily. www.tradescotours.com/tours/budapest_express.php Dick
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Hi, I just visited Vienna and Budapest less than 1 month ago. We were there for 13 days (including travel days), and could easily have spent more time in both. Therefore, 2 weeks for these 3 cities may be a bit rushed, but I guess it depends on your interests. I love art museums so I can easily spend 2 weeks in Vienna alone for those.
Train travel is very easy between Vienna and Budapest. You may want to check out my trip report: http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...pring-2009.cfm |
Have visited those 3 cities several times each and they will easily take up 2 weeks between then (plus travel between). By adding a couple of days to Salzburg you're making quite a crowded itinerary.
I would do it independstly - but then that's all I ever do. There's no reason not to, since all the cities have very well-developed tourist infrastructures and English is very widely spoken. |
Thank you all for your very helpful advice and websites. I do agree with nytraveler that I would rather do it independently but I was concerned about how widely English was spoken. For those of you that have gone can you please provide me with suggestions for hotels, sights not to miss and restaurant suggestions.
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Hi; In Prague, our hotel was www.hotel-pariz.cz/ and in a good location. In Vienna this hotel is in a great location, just behind St. Stephen's Cathedral, perhaps 100 yards from the old town square. . www.kvu.at/ In Vienna there are nice hotels within walking distance from the train station. Our first trip there, it was very easy getting off the train and walking to the hotel. Dick
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Agree with nytraveler, adding in Salzburg would crowd an otherwise not too hectic plan to do the three cities in two weeks.
I did the same trip with three friends about 5 years ago. Budapest-Vienna-Prague in that order or reverse, minimizes the train travel which is easy in any case. You can certainly do the arrangements yourself. We were gone 15 days so actually spent 4 days in Budapest, 5 in Vienna and 4 in Prague. I felt we shorted Prague a bit because on day 1 we didn't arrive from Vienna until around 3:00 in the afternoon. We hired private guides for a day and half day respectively in Budapest and Prague, which were excellent investments in time and funds as they gave us such a good grounding and we saw things we wouldn't have been likely to see on our own. While in Vienna we spent a day touring Melk followed by a boat trip on the Danube, through the Wachau Valley, to Durnstein. We're moving house and I just came across all the photos and scrapbook materials, still disassembled, from that trip. One of the best two weeks I've spent in Europe. Do check out yk's trip report, excellent recommendations and generally "good stuff." We went slightly upscale on hotels (AH, points) staying at the Hilton Buda, the Hotel Konig von Ungaren in Vienna and the InterContinental in Prague. I recommend all of them, particularly for their excellent locations, but the Viennese hotel was very special because it was, well, so Viennese. Happy to help with other questions and wishing you a great trip. |
I second iris1745's recommendation for the Hotel Pariz in Prague. Not only is an exquisite example of art nouveau decor the buffet breakfast is by far the greatest treat I've ever experienced, including my own home (well, especially including my own home). I don't know how close our Vienna hotel was from the railway station--we just grabbed a taxi when we emerged from the Prague-Vienna train, but we stayed at the--believe it or don't--Hotel Austria, a nice, quiet (on a cul de sac) *** hotel within a couple streets of the Schwedenplatz underground station and the Danube canal near the northern inner ring road, and about four or five streets north of St. Stephensplatz.
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For a hotel in Prague, I would highly recommend Residence Retezova. It's less expensive than the Hotel Pariz and you get an apartment on a quiet street near the Charles Bridge in Old Town. Next door (and connected to the small hotel lobby) is a wonderful cafe with the best coffee I've ever tasted! If you like music, you can buy tickets online for a symphony performance at Dvorak Hall. We were there last September, and went on opening night. They put up a large screen and xtra chairs outside the hall for people who don't have tickets. I wish they did that here in San Francisco! I also recommend a tour of the old Jewish quarter with Wittman Tours.
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I'll also recommend the Wittman Tours for the Jewish Quarter.
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Last year we were in Prague and Budapest. We had apartments which for us is the only way to go. In Prague we stayed in Mala Strana in a small flat between the US and German Embassies. Super location and quiet too. The website is www.arcadiaresidence.com. In Budapest we stayed on the Pest side (where all the action is) in a beautiful apartment owned by an American. The website for that is http://budapestvacationrentals.com.
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hi mohun,
we are booked into the austria in Vienna for our 4 night stay in 2 weeks' time. Good choice? we are planning to spend most of our time in central Vienna, with a trip out to Schonbrun and grinzing/doebling. have you got an yother ideas /tips to pass on? regards, ann |
Hi; Take a 'day' trip' on the Danube to Melk and Krems. I think you take a tour bus first to Krems and then a cruise boat to Melk. All part of a package 'tour' given by a number of companies. Dick
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hi, iris, thanks for the tip, if it was meant for me!
in fact, once we leave Vienna, we are going to drive to the Salzkammergut via Melk and Krems. so I've planned to spend our precious 3 1/2 days in vienna doing other stuff. nice idea though! regards, ann |
Hi Ann; You probably know of this town too, but Durnstein is another great little town on the Danube. If you are pressed for time, for us, I would select Durnstein before Krems. Dick
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Annhig,
We stayed for five nights at the Austria in 2006. It's a fairly small, family-run hotel on a nice, quiet cul-de-sac. The hotel folks are very helpful and the location is excellent, close to the Schwedenplatz underground station and just a few streets from St. Stephens. Every three or four months we get a chatty newsletter with info on what's going on in Vienna, where the young staff are going to school or from where they've graduated, the new colors that have been added to the breakfast room, the rooms that have been redecorated, etc. It's a modest, but charming place and we'd definitely stay there again. |
hi mohun,
that's very helpful, and confirms my feelings about the place from my dealings so far. also, it is convenient for our arrival in Vienna as we hope to travel by hydrofoil from Bratislava; so far as I can tell, the hydrofoil stops about 10 mins walk away from the austria. and I like the fact [I hope] that being in a cul de sac, it's quiet. Glad to have had your feed-back regards, ann PS - did you try hiring a bike in Vienna? |
We didn't try bikes, but it could be a good idea if you were touring smaller neighborhoods. Within the inner ring road, Vienna is a big city traffic could be a bit dense in places. Kartnerstrasse is a major pedrian-only shopping street that runs south southwest from St. Stephens all the way to the Staatsoper on the southern border of the inner ring road. I've copied the Hotel Austria June newsletter and attempted to paste it to the end of this post. There's so many great places for strudel, if you're so inclined; I think there's one on Fleishmarkt just around the corner from the hotel. The Shakespeare and Company English bookstore is a couple of blocks awayand the Jewish Museum is also very close to the hotel, as is also quite a beautiful Orhtodox Church. Sites that we greatly enjoyed were the Prater amusement park which has the famous ferris wheel which plays an important part in the film The Third Man. I'm a film buff so I must also mention the Third Man walking tour, complete with zither. Finally, we made a delightful day trip south to Baden (about an hour by train) to see an example of that special Austrian art form, the operetta (in this case die Zirkusprinseen); you don't have to speak the language to enjoy the music and humor in an operetta. Alkso, you should know, if you haven't discovered it already, that "iced coffee" in Central EWurope is not anything like the Starbucks variety--it's cold coffee iced with ice cream and some chocolate at the bo9ttom of the glass with whipped heavy cream on top, a fun indulgence on a warm day. Have a great trip and don't hestitate to write again if you have any questions.
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I can also add my recommendation of the Hotel Austria.
You probably already have it but their website www.hotelaustria-wien.at I have have friends visiting me who stayed there and enjoyed it. I hope you arrange boat transfer from Bratislava on the Twin City Liner. www.twincityliner.com This is the best series of boats and is a catamaran. Some hydrofoils travel on the Danube. These are old boats , soviet era, and relatively slow and smelly. They also dock well out of the city center. The Twin City liner docks in Vienna at Schwedenplatz. Perhaps a 5 minute walk slightly uphill to the hotel. A nice cafe in the area near to the hotel is Cafe Diglas- excelent pastry. Nearby also is the restaurant Griechenbeisl also on Fleischmarkt. While many like it , I find it overpriced for quality received. Just my opinion. |
mohun,
thanks for the link. in fact I too am a subscriber to the hotel austria newsletter which has already given me some entertainment and useful information. it's one of the things that attracted me to them, that and the excellent position that you refer to. unfortunately, the "third man" tour takes place at 4pm on Friday, when we will only just have arrived in Bratislava, and Monday, when we have tickets for the opera that starts at 7pm. so a two hour tour is not really on, unfortunately. but thanks for the thought. molker - it's always encouraging when locals recommend somewhere. the twincity liner is the one I'm intending to use - do I understand that you are suggesting that we book? if so, I suppose that I ought to do that soon. we get to Bratislava about 3pm so I suspect that ny midday on sat we'l' have had enough. i will use your link to check the times, thanks. we will look out for the Diglas [I'm looking forward to Eiskaffee which I've had on trips to Germany previously] and the Griechenbeisl, which we will avoid. do you have any tips for good reasonbly priced eating spots? regards, ann |
molker,
thanks so much for prompting me to book the catamaran. i went on the website and the 14.30 is almost full. in fact we we've decided that half a day will probably be enough for Bratislava, we've decided to take the earlier 10.30 boat, which will get us to Vienna at about midday. if we can't get into our room, at least we'll be able to dump the bags and go and get lunch. anywhere you'd recommend for our first wienermittagessen? regards, ann |
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