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elaine Sep 15th, 2019 02:35 PM

Bruges as a daytrip from Paris
 
I know it would be more time on a bus or train than actual time in Bruges. I know it will be rushed. I also know that if I love it, I will try to go back another time. I've looked at Paris Vision and Viator for organized tours. Some comments feel the tour and guide offers a decent overview, others say it's much too little free time to see anything of import. If anyone has experience with or suggestions about an organized (or solo?) day trip to Bruges from Paris this October, please share your insights. Thank you.

greg Sep 15th, 2019 04:09 PM

I think you will get more relevant info if you can articulate why you are interested in an escorted tour rather than doing this on your own. The caveats you mentioned regarding the time overhead is a consequence of the escorted tour and not a day trip to Bruges on its own.

An example of Paris Vision:
7:15am - 11am Paris to Bruges by coach
11am-4:30pm Tour of the city - 5 hours (according to the brochure)
4:30pm-9pm Bruges to Paris by coach
All for about 169EU.

Compare this to doing this on your own with max time in Bruges since you mentioned time in the city:
6:13am-8:54am Paris-Bruxelles-Bruges by trains
9:30am-7:30pm Tour of the city = 10 hours taking into account time to walk between the station and the city
7:58pm-10:35pm Bruges-Bruxelles-Paris by trains

So, as you can see, a tour spends 7.5 hrs traveling to give you 5 hrs in Bruges.
If you take the max time train option, you spend 5.5 hrs traveling to give you 10 hours in Bruges. Furthermore, you chose what you want to see in Bruges..

elaine Sep 15th, 2019 04:39 PM

I mentioned a solo trip as an option. I am wondering about getting from the train station to the city center and principal sights, and then perhaps to a canal boat trip. I don't have a great sense of direction, and I dread becoming lost in a place I have never visited. That can also be a waste of time. Thanks.

RobertaL Sep 15th, 2019 04:54 PM

Two years ago, we took an early train from Paris to Bruges. You can either walk to the city center or take a local bus. We did everything on our own, took in the sites and climbed to the top of the bell tower (not an easy task). We hopped on a boat tour since we were there for such a short time. We were able to see Bruges from the water's view which was pretty. We walked, shopped, dined and sampled a few beers. We caught the bus back to the train station (evening train) and were back in Paris by 9:30pm. Very doable and easy to do without a tour.

janisj Sep 15th, 2019 04:58 PM

>>I am wondering about getting from the train station to the city center<<

The train station is IN the city center. It is at most a 15 -20 minute walk from the major sites.

It would be hard to get lost -- but you can alway ask directions.

The biggest problem with the group tour (besides being expensive and not very time-efficient) is it plops you in Bruges in the middle of the day with all the thousands of other day tripper who are only there from noon to 4PM.



•••• If Bruges is important to you you could even consider 'eating' a night in Paris and taking an early morning train to . . . and a morning train the next day back to Paris ••••

Sassafrass Sep 15th, 2019 05:25 PM

I enjoyed Bruges, actually spent five nights there, but IMHO, it is not worth spending too much time to get there. I certainly would not sit on a bus tour to do it, and if Bruges is the only interest (not surrounding areas), then one day is enough. Take the train the fastest way and do a tour completely on your own. Make it a long day, have dinner, wonderful local ice-cream, apple tart and stay until lights are on. Bruges is especially pretty then. There, all done with Bruges.

elaine Sep 15th, 2019 05:27 PM

That's reassuring--thanks.

Sassafrass Sep 15th, 2019 05:28 PM

Bruges is very small. You won’t get lost.

elaine Sep 15th, 2019 05:28 PM

That's helpful; thanks.

KayF Sep 15th, 2019 08:53 PM

Hi Elaine, I know how you feel as I have zero sense of direction too. I've been to Brugge twice - would go back tomorrow, love it - and although it's fairly small I still think it's possible to get lost, especially for those of us challenged in that area. Luckily I travel with my husband whose sense of direction astounds me (how does he know??) otherwise I would still be wandering hopelessly around Europe. We found people helpful and friendly in Belgium and most seem to speak enough English to help should you get lost. Don't hesitate to pop into a shop or cafe if you are unsure about your direction.

Also I'd recommend studying a street map of the area, the route from train station to the centre etc so you are more comfortable once you're there. Joining a guided walk might be nice to meet others, we did one for about an hour which included a few of the wonderful chocolate shops. I think if you can be fairly comfortable with the 'getting lost' thing, you could do it on your own, rather than a tour. You can then please yourself how long you spend at each tourist spot and linger in a cafe if you choose.

Kay

menachem Sep 15th, 2019 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by elaine (Post 16986720)
I mentioned a solo trip as an option. I am wondering about getting from the train station to the city center and principal sights, and then perhaps to a canal boat trip. I don't have a great sense of direction, and I dread becoming lost in a place I have never visited. That can also be a waste of time. Thanks.

Just follow the tourists walking down Oostmeers, and walk towards the St Salvator steeple. That's all there is to it. Look it up on google maps and streetview before you go or ask for directions. (hard, I know).

greg Sep 15th, 2019 10:00 PM

There is a trivial way to get into town from the station if you are afraid of getting lost. Take a taxi to the Markt or if you already know which canal boat company you want to take, tell the taxi driver to drop you off there.
There is likely a mass of visitors getting off the train with you heading the same way to the city center.

MyriamC Sep 15th, 2019 11:47 PM

If you don't like to walk from the station to the centre, take one of the buses at the station. They all go to the centre and are very frequent (every 5 minutes).
Here's some general information and you will find a map in the 'discovering Bruges' section: https://www.visitbruges.be/en/public-transport

elaine Sep 16th, 2019 06:36 AM

Train advice
 
Thanks for the encouraging replies. Do I go to the Sncf website to look at train schedules Paris-Bruges? Raileurope? Thanks.

StCirq Sep 16th, 2019 06:55 AM

I've been to Bruges a gazillion times. It never did much for me except maybe satisfy that urge everyone has for a Disney-like European experience. I would spend lots more time and lots more money getting to lots more places from Paris that have lots more punch historically, many of them in Belgium and the Netherlands, like Hoge Veluwe and Den Bosch and Delft and Ghent. Bruges does kind of win out on the pictorial aspect, though.And then of course France itself is full of day trips from Paris.

No, don't use Raileurope. Use SNCF.

elaine Sep 16th, 2019 08:18 AM

Thank you. Delft is on my bucket list. I didn't realize it was doable, distance-wise, as a daytrip from Paris. Hmmm.

Christina Sep 16th, 2019 09:17 AM

If I were going to do that (and I wouldn't as a day trip from Paris), personally, I'd prefer the tour as it sounds a lot less tiring. No way would I want to get to a train station at 6:30 am and not return until 10:35 pm nor would I want to spend 10 hours touring Bruges anyway.

I think there are better tours than the example cites, though, and cheaper Like this one

https://www.francetourisme.fr/tours-...html?prov=sugg

greg Sep 16th, 2019 09:30 AM

>>> I didn't realize it was doable, distance-wise, as a daytrip from Paris.
This is a car centric thinking where the distance can be a proxy for the travel time.
In case of train travel, the relevant metric is the travel time.

elaine Sep 16th, 2019 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by greg (Post 16986995)
>>> I didn't realize it was doable, distance-wise, as a daytrip from Paris.
This is a car centric thinking where the distance can be a proxy for the travel time.
In case of train travel, the relevant metric is the travel time.

I am not car-centric as I do not own one and rarely think in terms of driving-time.
When I spoke of distance, I was thinking about travel time. Sorry I was not more precise about the metric.

lavandula Sep 16th, 2019 08:43 PM

We went to Bruges last year. We drove to the station and parked there in the car park, then caught the bus into town. On the way back we caught it from the same location, back to the station. Bruges is easy to walk around. You could do it by yourself; if you took a tour, odds are that they would open the door of the bus and say: see you here in 4 hours, so there might still be some element of self-navigation. I have done some tours like this and felt under a lot of time pressure in case the bus left without me.

Lavandula

menachem Sep 16th, 2019 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by elaine (Post 16986898)
Thanks for the encouraging replies. Do I go to the Sncf website to look at train schedules Paris-Bruges? Raileurope? Thanks.

https://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/qu...rotocol=https:

MyriamC Sep 17th, 2019 02:43 AM


Originally Posted by elaine (Post 16986959)
Thank you. Delft is on my bucket list. I didn't realize it was doable, distance-wise, as a daytrip from Paris. Hmmm.

Doable ... theoretically, yes. But it's about three and a half hours on the train one-way.
For me this would be a NO.


elaine Sep 17th, 2019 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by menachem (Post 16987214)

Am I correct that all trains from Paris to Bruges and back again, require a transfer in Brussels?
I would like to leave Paris about 7 or 7:30 am to maximize my time.

elaine Sep 17th, 2019 04:21 AM

taking the train to Bruges from Paris
 
I decided to arrange a private guide in Bruges and will travel on my own by train from and to Paris.
The good advice received here put me off the bus tour. Sometimes those are fine, but I want more free time in Bruges as I don’t know if I’ll return there. Thank you. Now, to try navigating online train schedules and transfers...

MyriamC Sep 17th, 2019 06:47 AM

Yes, all the trains from Paris to Bruges and back require a change in Brussels.
Thalys from Paris-Nord (7:25) to Bruxelles-Midi (8:47), then a local train to Bruges (Brugge), dep. 8:56 - arr. 9:54 (or any later train).
Book on www.thalys.com

elaine Sep 17th, 2019 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by MyriamC (Post 16987346)
Yes, all the trains from Paris to Bruges and back require a change in Brussels.
Thalys from Paris-Nord (7:25) to Bruxelles-Midi (8:47), then a local train to Bruges (Brugge), dep. 8:56 - arr. 9:54 (or any later train).
Book on www.thalys.com

thank you

Tulips Sep 17th, 2019 10:38 AM

Be sure to book your Thalys ticket all the way to Brugge; there's no need to get a separate Brussels-Brugge ticket, it's all on the same Thalys ticket.
While you have a seat reservation for a fixed Thalys train on the Paris-Brussels part, once in Brussels Midi you can take any local train to Brugge. There is no seat reservation on the local train.
You can find out in advance which platform your train to Brugge departs from. If in doubt, just ask someone. It's all signposted so you shouldn't have any problem.

eastenderusvi Sep 17th, 2019 11:51 AM

IMHO, the best time in Bruges is after the daytrippers leave. It really is a fairy tale town when the lights come on and you are walking the streets alone. It is a totally different place than during the day.

elaine Sep 17th, 2019 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Tulips (Post 16987462)
Be sure to book your Thalys ticket all the way to Brugge; there's no need to get a separate Brussels-Brugge ticket, it's all on the same Thalys ticket.
While you have a seat reservation for a fixed Thalys train on the Paris-Brussels part, once in Brussels Midi you can take any local train to Brugge. There is no seat reservation on the local train.
You can find out in advance which platform your train to Brugge departs from. If in doubt, just ask someone. It's all signposted so you shouldn't have any problem.

That's helpful information for the trains; thank you.

elaine Sep 17th, 2019 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by eastenderusvi (Post 16987507)
IMHO, the best time in Bruges is after the daytrippers leave. It really is a fairy tale town when the lights come on and you are walking the streets alone. It is a totally different place than during the day.

I'm sure that's true, but I only have an opportunity for a day trip.

RobertaL Sep 17th, 2019 06:20 PM

I would've loved to see Bruges at night but we only had the opportunity to see it as a day trip. The Thalys train ride was comfortable and never once did we say afterwards, "Wow that was too rushed". We are both in our 50's and thought the day trip in and out of Paris was great. We climbed 366 steps up the bell tower, had a beer flight at Beerwall, shopped, enjoyed a late afternoon mussels meal and did a canal boat cruise. Get there before noon, leave late evening. You won't regret it.

janisj Sep 17th, 2019 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by elaine (Post 16987684)
I'm sure that's true, but I only have an opportunity for a day trip.


But it has been explained how you CAN be there after the day trippers abandon the place. The coach tours are on the way out of town by 4PM (most even earlier). So if you take a morning train and then stay through dinner and take an evening train back to Paris you will see two completely different cities - one version between 10 AM and 4 PM . . . and a different one in the early evening.

TDudette Sep 18th, 2019 08:00 AM

Sorry but I skipped much above. DH and I took a bus day trip from Paris to Bruges. We didn't have enough time to see the lace-makers at the convent (possibly not there anymore) but felt we had enough time for highlights: boat trip, Michelangelo sculpture, city center and city hall. Lunch on our own. Except for all the excellent information the guides provided, and someone else schlepping for all tickets, what janisj wrote makes sense.

AlessandraZoe Sep 18th, 2019 08:19 AM

I agree with some of the others that if you are going to make the effort to go there, stay until the town lights up. You don't need to stay long.

I'll give you an off-the-wall comparison: Toledo Spain is a common daytrip from Madrid and it's a nightmare of tourist madness during the day; when darkness falls and daytrippers have fled, it's sheer magic.

And I so hope you find a copy of "In Bruges" to watch.
Enjoy,
AZ

Sassafrass Sep 18th, 2019 08:20 AM

Evening in Bruges is like when you decorate your Christmas tree and it is still plain, then you turn on the lights and it is magical. It is worth staying an hour or so after dark to enjoy it.


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