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StCirq Dec 2nd, 2016 02:54 AM

If it had been foie gras, you'd be going nutso.

ESW Dec 2nd, 2016 03:10 AM

First I've heard of it - and I had to check the date wasn't April 1st....

bilboburgler Dec 2nd, 2016 07:33 AM

Given the amount of cocaine on most notes, you would be hard pushed to spot the tallow.

nukesafe Dec 2nd, 2016 08:46 AM

LOL, Bilbo! :-)

NewbE Dec 2nd, 2016 09:04 AM

Everyone scruples over something...I feel sad for you if you don't, actually!

As a vegetarian, I don't buy leather, nor anything that I know contains animal products. And yes, I am adult enough to know that I can't always know what stuff is made of, and purity is not a realistic goal. I eat honey, and wear wool and silk, so would not pass a vegan's scrutiny.

Still, it disappoints me when animal products are used unthinkingly, especially when they require the death of the animal. And if the amount used is that small, is it really necessary?

And finally, the old "don't you have anything better to worry about" argument is a pretty low one, isn't it?

PalenQ Dec 2nd, 2016 09:57 AM

When must society or how far must society bend over backward to accommodate the wishes of a relative few-over an issue that see nearly no animal products in it and those are probably by-products and not ones that were responsible for killing an animal -meat consumption accounts for that.

Yet I respect NewbE's stance as well.

menachem Dec 2nd, 2016 11:09 AM

sparkchaser: to a reasonably strict brahmin, a shadow might already be polluting. not passing judgement on it but talk of "trace amounts" and what have you have no dominion in the realm of religious practice.

menachem Dec 2nd, 2016 11:11 AM

well, PalenQ, it will reasonably soon turn out that our careless behaviour towards the natural world has brought us to the brink of collapse as a global civilization.

flanneruk Dec 2nd, 2016 11:24 AM

<i>"When must society or how far must society bend over backward to accommodate the wishes of a relative few-" </i>

When it's civilised.

A concept pseudo-liberals in Michigan are incapable of grasping

<i> "Who ever had this really silly idea" </i>

A society that believes governments shouldn't waste money.

Clearly a concept New York's neo-Marxist squanderers of public budgets can't get their heads round either.

NewbE Dec 2nd, 2016 11:27 AM

"When must society or how far must society bend over backward to accommodate the wishes of a relative few-"

A rather authoritarian argument, no? Majority rules?

PalenQ Dec 2nd, 2016 11:28 AM

"When must society or how far must society bend over backward to accommodate the wishes of a relative few-" Well I guess a fiver is something folks just have to handle in their daily lives so that makes a difference I guess.

But still how civilized can you get?

Train and bus seats may have animal residue in their fabric or plastic - and on and on - why just the fiver?

Anyway yes there are always two sides - a right side and a wrong side.

NewbE Dec 2nd, 2016 11:31 AM

<But still how civilized can you get?>
I don't know, but I'm certain we're not that close.

PalenQ Dec 2nd, 2016 12:45 PM

studies here have shown than our $20 bills often contain a cocaine or heroin residue

I bet the British Fiver probably also contains animal products regardless of materials it is made from -like when someone goes into a Chippie and gets a fiver in change - what's the chance there is some grease on that bill?

Much ado about nothing for sure in this case. Vegans should find more productive things to fight about-like fox slaughters by rich and noble folk.

dotheboyshall Dec 4th, 2016 01:12 AM

<i>Clearly a concept New York's neo-Marxist squanderers of public budgets can't get their heads round either.</i>

$1m a DAY to keep youngest trump in his school

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-a7451826.html

sparkchaser Dec 4th, 2016 04:10 AM

<i>sparkchaser: to a reasonably strict brahmin, a shadow might already be polluting. not passing judgement on it but talk of "trace amounts" and what have you have no dominion in the realm of religious practice.</i>

Must suck living in a cave and only being able to come out on overcast days.

bilboburgler Dec 4th, 2016 09:03 AM

Much as I have some sympathy with Hindu temples banning the new £5 I just wonder how much meat is already on all the old notes, if nothing else from human contact, passing into tills, sitting in shops. There is a lot of beef about.

These £5 are designed to last longer so will have longer to "pick up" but are also far less absorbant, so should stay cleaner.

Then of course any £5 kept in a wallet with any other cash will contaminate it. Those wallets been mainly made of cow...

Given the trigger for the Indian Mutiny/First Indian war of Independence (depending on which side one was on it has different names) you would have thought the Treasury would have spotted this one coming. I think there is a saying along the lines of

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

Dukey1 Dec 4th, 2016 12:35 PM

A tempest in a Cotswolds teapot.

PalenQ Dec 4th, 2016 12:39 PM

I hope none of those vegans have cats and feed them meat as some vegans I know do - cats need meat to survive -hate to see them have to resort to eating fivers!

Everything you touch in public must have some animal-based residue on it - from other humans for one thing-if a vegan shakes someone's hand they probably get more animal stuff than by touching the new fiver.

Heimdall Dec 5th, 2016 02:00 AM

One thing I remember about my trip to India was how filthy some of the rupee banknotes were that I received in change. No telling what all the hands they passed through had touched! If "purity" is an issue, surely polymer banknotes would be better. You can even run them through the washing machine without damage.

PalenQ Dec 5th, 2016 07:35 AM

No telling what all the hands they passed through had touched!>

especially the left hand which doubles as TP or many Indians.


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