Breakfast at French Hotels

Dec 11th, 2006, 06:11 AM
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I think it obviosuly depends on which hotel you stay in. My rate for the d'Aubusson coming up include breakfast as did our rate for a recent stay at the Victoria Palace.

As to the "contents" of the breakfast I try NOT to stay at places which offer mediocre food (as Neo so graciously describes it).

I certainly don't skip the breakfast if it is included in the rate but I try to find out ABOUT the breakfast quality before I book rooms and this last has often been helped by people who post such details here.
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Dec 11th, 2006, 06:18 AM
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Hi C,

AFAIK, (from reading the notice on the back of the door), breakfast in France is separate from the room rate.

If you elect not to have breakfast you should be credited if it is "included" in the quoted rate.

10-13E pp should be a full buffet bkfst.

The Bonaparte (our hotel in Paris) serves (pp) pot of coffee or tea, large roll, croissant, butter, confiture.

We prefer to have it served in our room.

Since I am an ear;y riser, I go out in the morning and have an early eye opener at one of the several cafes down the street.

Cup of coffee, standing at the bar, 1E
Fresh croissant, still warm, 1.5E
Eavesdropping on the locals coming off work and drinking wine - priceless.

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Dec 11th, 2006, 06:23 AM
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Hi MD,

Per person prices:

Bkfst: 3E
Lunch: 5 - 15E
Dinner: 20-40E

You can eat pleasantly for 40E/day per person in Paris.

www.flobrasseries.com/ offer a 15% discount if you book online.

The Léon de Bruxelles chain offers excellent mussels and fries - about 15E with dessert.

Look up locations at www.pagesjaunes.fr

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Dec 11th, 2006, 06:28 AM
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"Cup of coffee, standing at the bar, 1E
Fresh croissant, still warm, 1.5E
Eavesdropping on the locals coming off work and drinking wine - priceless.'

ira, I bet I've seen you once or twice as I stagger back to my room from the Katt-Katt Club!
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Dec 11th, 2006, 07:51 AM
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Are grocery store deli's the same in Europe as in the states? We love em!
 
Dec 11th, 2006, 08:03 AM
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Monoprix "delis" have carry-out options. It's a chain of general mdse stores with a grocery in the basement.

I haven't noticed carryout options at the usual neighborhood grocery (but I haven't really looked). For "deli" equivalent in Paris you will visit a patisserie or food court (at Bon Marche for example). There are lots of shops where you can get sandwiches---I think the term for "to go" is "a emporter". We've often gotten sandwiches and a pastry to eat in a nearby park.
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Dec 11th, 2006, 08:13 AM
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The Casino supermarket chain has a deli section, but they are not everywhere in Paris. The other supermarket chains just have "ready-to-eat food" sections.
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Dec 11th, 2006, 10:24 AM
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I don't know what hotels Cato is looking at, but there are some more expensive and pricey 3* hotels within all of them, of course (like those in St Germain). I don't think a 10-13 euro charge for breakfast at these hotels is that high any more, but I've only looked around at a few hotels, of course. That rate does't mean it is going to be a buffet breakfast, either, that isn't that high a rate for a "continental" breakfast in expensive hotels now, but it could be. Hotels in Provence have been charging that for some years now for a continental breakfast, but they tend to charge more than in Paris because you are captive often and they know it. They make a lot of money on those breakfasts down there.

I have a favorite 3* hotel in Montparnasse which isn't as expensive as those in St Germain etc., and they now charge 9.50 euro for a continental breakfast. I never take it, but I know that is their price from the rate card. The Brighton charges 15 euro now (that is a nice 3* on the Right Bank), but that one is a buffet. The Parc St Severin is a more modest 3* hotel in the 5th and they charge 11 euro for a buffet breakfast (but I don't know what it consists of). That hotel charges for a room about what I pay in MOntparnasse. the Hotel des Saints Peres in the 7th, an expensive 3* hotel in an expensive area, charges 13 euro for breakfast and it is only continental.
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Dec 11th, 2006, 10:32 AM
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Inno has a deli-type area.
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Dec 11th, 2006, 10:42 AM
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I have always understood that French law - or perhaps it is a local Parisian ordinance - requires that any charge for breakfast be separate from the room rate and that hotel guests must be credited for breakfasts that they did not consume. In practice, I do often see "breakfast included" rates advertised by some booking agencies, but most sites put up by hotels themselves post their room rates with a separate charge for breakfast.
That said, I also find that most Parisian hotel breakfasts are neither that tasty nor a very good financial deal. (The Ibis chain may be an exception if you are a big breakfast eater.)
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Dec 11th, 2006, 10:50 AM
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On a recent trip to toulouse we made a real mistake in not eating the hotel breakfast on the first day. When we did take it, on the second, we found that we had missed freshly squeezed orange juice [no not out of a packet, the real thing] unlimited coffeee, tea or chocolate with hot or cold milk, croissants, breads, eggs bacon, ham, jam, etc.etc. The cafe breakfast we found was far inferior, and cost us E7 each instead of the E10 in the hotel.
so my tip would be to take the breakfast on the first day, then decide whether you want to continue with it.

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Dec 11th, 2006, 11:51 AM
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I think that is the best advice -- to ask what it is before deciding. A hotel should be able to tell you what it is, at least whether it is more than a continental-style breakfast. I had a really good buffet breakfast in a Strasbourg hotel once, and I've had great breakfasts in some other French hotels, but I just don't want to eat in my hotel in Paris, regardless of what it was. I don't drink juice, anyway, so there is little it could be that would interest me, to be honest, except good coffee (and I do appreciate that).

As Seamus says, I think by law it has to be taken out of the bill, they can't force you to pay for it. Now I rarely use booking sites for Parisian hotels, but I've never noticed a lot of rates being quoted as breakfast included. If a third-party booking site does that, it could be they are just trying to get you to pay for it when you don't have to. If one knows the rate is no higher than the hotel quotes without breakfast, then you may be getting a deal.

When I asked my hotel last time what the breakfast consisted of, I think the guy said it was a "complet". I'm not positive, but I think that term in French hotel breakfast jargon means basically a breakfast that is coffee, juice, butter and jam, and some sliced bread, and a small pastry or croissant, also. The term complet distinguishes it from just the real basic thing of a cup of coffee and some bread, I think.
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Dec 11th, 2006, 12:34 PM
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I think we will take annhig's advice and try the hotel breakfast the first morning in Paris to see if it's any good/worth it? and if not I guess we can find something else. We are big breakfast eaters here in Arkansas so it's pretty important to us to find a good hearty first meal of the day. should we take our travel coffee maker with us or is the coffee nice and strong in Europe? I am a 3 cups to wake up guy.
 
Dec 11th, 2006, 12:52 PM
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I think you'll find "nice and strong" to be an understatement! Mmmmm, Paris coffee. Wish I had some right now!
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Dec 11th, 2006, 07:52 PM
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I usually stay in an apartment which saves a lot of money on breakfasts and snacks. When staying in a hotel, I go to a local grocery store (usually Monoprix or Franprix) and stock up on cheese, sausage, packaged salads etc to keep in the fridge. If there isn't a fridge and it's winter time, the window ledge works well! I've also brought a soft sided cooler and had the hotel freeze blue ice for me (ice is difficult to purchase). I also buy Coca-Cola light or soda water to keep in the room...I never order soda in a restaurant....WAY too expensive. I order the carafe of water for no charge.

You can also save quite a bit by buying a cheese filled crepe for lunch or dinner...they are delicious, very filling and very reasonably priced.

Have a great time!

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Dec 11th, 2006, 11:10 PM
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Ira,

If you are paying the rate listed on the back of a hotel door then you've obviously paid too much!!!
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Dec 11th, 2006, 11:31 PM
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if i stay in a hotel in france on business, breakfast is never included. however, if i'm on a leisure and book from the UK (eg eurostar holidays, lastminute, etc), breakfast is almost always included with no decrease in price for refusing the breakfast.

as neo indicates, the breakfast in these small hotels is usually substandard. it is convenient and free but never anything memorable.
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