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Kay Apr 21st, 2003 11:00 AM

Black coffee in Paris
 
I drink my coffee black. In Paris this seems to be an espresso which is ok but not really what I want. What do I ask for if I want a normal sized cup of coffee with no cream?

chaton Apr 21st, 2003 11:40 AM

I'm not sure if they put milk in a &quot;cafe americain&quot;, but you might try asking for that. You can always go to McDonalds -- I believe they have the kind of coffee you're looking for.<BR><BR>

MHS Apr 21st, 2003 11:54 AM

You will have no problem getting black coffee in Paris -- DH drinks only black coffee. Can ask for &quot;Black American coffee&quot; or &quot;Black Coffee American size&quot; or &quot;Black Coffee Large Size&quot; or &quot;black cafe american&quot;.<BR>However, it will be served in a cup -- no mugs like USA dinners or super-sized Starbuck cups.<BR><BR>Sometimes when he wanted expresso he asked for a double size.

Gretchen Apr 21st, 2003 12:46 PM

Order Cafe Americain or Cafe long (longzh) or cafe grande.

LVSue Apr 21st, 2003 01:25 PM

A cafe allonge (ah-lon-zhay) is an espresso with hot water added.

ed Apr 21st, 2003 04:58 PM

OK what do I order that is close to coffee with cream Amerocan style??<BR><BR>In my several trips I've never succeeded in getting it. <BR>Hard to get going in the morning

giro Apr 21st, 2003 05:30 PM

I maybe wrong, but if I recall, normally coffee was served in small carafes with a second carafe of hot milk to be added. So...if you want black, just don't add the milk...voila.

djkbooks Apr 21st, 2003 05:38 PM

For Ed: Cafe Creme, or Grand Creme. It's between cappuccino and coffee with cream. Beware, you'll get hooked - as it sure gets (and keeps) you going.

Christina Apr 21st, 2003 05:59 PM

in response to the first question (Kay), it's not really that easy so don't count on it. YOu can get it as some places that are American-oriented, such as Tex-Mex diners, there are a couple chains of those (Indiana Cafe is one, and the Mustang Cafe up near La Coupole has decent food with regular black coffee). I don't know if these Tex-Mex chains are American or just trying to be trendy, but they have that style food. <BR><BR>I only asked for &quot;American black coffee&quot; once when it was on a cafe's menu (near the Musee d'Orsay) and it was real swill, simply awful. I have had good somewhat strong, flavorful black brewed coffee for breakfast (but NOT espresso) at hotels in their breakfast room. Other than that, even though I do not drink coffee with cream or milk at home, I have learned to go with the flow in Paris and drink cafe creme. McDonald's is a good bet in a pinch because their coffee is not bad and is cheap--their espresso is more like strong black coffee, not real espresso.<BR>

Betsy Apr 21st, 2003 07:01 PM

This post makes me laugh because my husband struggles to find an American-size cup of black coffee in France. Before our last trip, I read in a guidebook a tongue-in-cheek French term for American coffee: jus du chausette, or sock juice. I think the term refers to American coffee tasting like the water in which one washes socks. I taught my non-French speaking (says his Bavarian bone structure won't permit speaking French) husband the little phrase, which he used one morning in a bar where we were having breakfast. The server looked at him with that &quot;how'd he know that?&quot; expression, grinned and served him a large cup of black coffee. A fun travel memory.


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