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May 4th, 2005, 08:21 AM
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On a roundabout you can go around as many times as you wish. So if there is a lot of cars coming into the roundabout then find your exit on the first loop and then exit on the second. This gives you time to position yourself.
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May 4th, 2005, 08:22 AM
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well my associate said not to let the beeping horns bother me... I will just stay in the slow lane, but she said the signs and exits are very close together, not like in the US where you have about 1 mile to react.
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May 4th, 2005, 09:33 AM
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I am a firm believer that the role of the Navigator is more important than the driver when it comes to Irish roads.
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May 4th, 2005, 09:35 AM
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I am the navigator and driver for this trip and I am calling this a vacation. haha
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May 4th, 2005, 10:27 AM
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Yes, the passing lane is to the right. Everything is reversed, as you might expect. I think that's one of the things that makes driving on the opposite side difficult. It's not just the car being on the other side of the road, it's also looking in the correct direction when you enter a yield situation like a roundabout, shifting with your left hand if it's a stick, turning to the left instead of the right to look out your rear window, etc.

I don't know about Ireland, but in England, you can get a ticket for driving in the passing lane when you are not actually passing (they call it "overtaking") another car. Much stricter on that than in the US.
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May 4th, 2005, 10:38 AM
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irisheyes58, Make sure that your MasterCard specifically covers you in Ireland.There are very few Platinium cards left that cover Ireland.

After you confim that it does, have them issue you a letter stating that fact,as some car rental companies will ask you to prove coverage to them at the time of rental.

Third Party liability should not be a concern as the car rental company is required to carry this.
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May 4th, 2005, 11:07 AM
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From irisheyes58:
"in general, which lane is the passing or fast lane - ours is the left lane - is their's the right lane?"

Use either one, just be sure there aren't any pedestrians on the sidewalk when you pass on the left.
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May 4th, 2005, 11:21 AM
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Lovejoy has a good point. I forgot to mention that. You need to contact MC, not your bank. They won't have a clue. Here are soem instructions I gave to all of the people traveling with me next week.

"Calling MasterCard

Make sure you have a MasterCard and call 1-800 MCASSIST to find out if the card offers coverage in Ireland. If it is gold or platinum, it probably will. Ask them to fax you a letter. When you get to the phone tree. you will get a prompt for language (press 1) another prompt about being a card holder (press 1) then asked for your credit card number (eventually you'll press 1 when correct) and then a long message. At this point do not press the #2 prompt for master rental. That just gives you a recording. Choose #6 which gets you an operator. That person can give you info on whether or not you are covered and can fax, email or snail mail the coverage letter."

I know that seems like overkill on the instructions, but the recorded message (option 2) can go on forever. All the do is read the webpage to you. They faxed me the letter in about 5 minutes.

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May 4th, 2005, 02:25 PM
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I just finished speaking with MC ASSIST and they are sending me a fax.

Thanks to all for putting me on the right track.
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May 5th, 2005, 12:05 PM
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Another point to note about driving in Ireland versus the US: there is no right (or left) turn on red, ever.

Being allowed to drive through a red light if I was turning and it wasn't signposted not to, was one of the things that threw me most when I was first driving in the US. I felt like I was breaking the rules of the road, even though I knew it was okay!
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May 5th, 2005, 12:59 PM
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Just make sure you come to a complete stop before making that turn on red, or you are breaking the law. Often I wonder if everyone knows that.
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May 19th, 2005, 03:04 AM
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You cannot overtake on in the left lane - it's illegal. On a duel carrigaway the right lane is for overtaking and you should move into the left lane when it is safe to do so. Please do not sit in the right lane at a crawlers pace - you will irritate other drivers.

Here is a link to the highway code, it is for the UK an N Ireland but to the best of my knowledge is the same in the Republic. It explains overtaking and roundabouts with graphics.
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May 19th, 2005, 07:01 AM
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cambe, did you really read all of my answer? Have you ever seen a tongue-in-cheek?

Thank you for the website for the highway code.
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May 19th, 2005, 09:04 AM
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Ooops, sorry JS. Read 'use either one' and flipped.

Believe me it happens all the time here, people passing on the inside lane because slow drivers sit in the fast lane and lots of Irish people don't know how to go around a roundabout. It's not just tourists (I'm Irish by the way so can say this and I do go round a roundabout correctly)

Sorry again!!
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May 19th, 2005, 10:55 AM
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Another note to driving safely in Ireland:

When another driver is up behind you on a one lane (or one lane each way) road, and is obviously wanting you to go faster (i.e., coming up close), just pull a little over to the left, so they can pass you. That's the 'protocol'. My dad didn't realize this his first trip over, and kept trying to go faster so they would back off.

At night.
On windy roads he'd never driven on.
After 15 hours of flying from SFO.

Needless to say, I tried to tell him, after retracting my fingernails from the dashboard.
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May 19th, 2005, 11:14 AM
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Having recently returned from a driving trip in New Zealand, I encourage the following simple minded but helpful mantra: Look right, drive left. Both my husband and myself did just fine.
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May 19th, 2005, 11:30 AM
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Having just returned from driving in Ireland for 10 days I highly endorse the comment that the navigator is the most important person in the car. You need one who is committed to staying awake, reading the map to let you know which town you are heading for on the roundabout since it's not like our roads where it might say Rt 80 East or West......instead they'll give the name of a town on down the road, and it might not be the one you're headed for but is in the same direction so you'll need to recognized that it's on your route. Also, the navigator and anyone else in the car always said "stay left" whenever the driver made a turn. That's the trickiest time since we naturally gravitate to the right lane after turning......once you're GOT into the correct lane it was easier but getting into it required concentration. The toughest times were when someone made a sudden move or came at you from a side road and you're natural inclination was to pull right to avoid and accident, which of course puts you directly in the line of oncoming traffic...don't drive tired (not easy to do after a trans-Atlantic flight when you're eager to get to your first destination, so plan a short trip for the first day. Other than all of that and the fact that the roads are extremely narrow with folks traveling 60mph where we would have cement divider between us, we found it a challenge you'll feel good about once it's over. Scotland was much more fun since I think the roads are better and slightly wider..they also seemed to be better engineered (banked) and you could almost have fun and feel like a sports car driver...It was actually hard getting back to our "right side" of the afer 3 weeks on the Left. I found myself driving on the left the 2nd day back. One more thing we had a rule that you had to say: CORRECT rather than the right to avoid confusion when giving directions. Talking about all of that with everyone in the car helped make everyone own some of the responsibility and keep the drive alert. Have fun.
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