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xcountry Jan 5th, 2018 08:56 AM

Best place in Europe to argue?
 
Aside from Speakers Corners is there someplace in Europe I can go to argue?

Gardyloo Jan 5th, 2018 09:10 AM

Room 12A. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxrbOVeRonQ

ribeirasacra Jan 5th, 2018 09:13 AM

https://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y

kerouac Jan 5th, 2018 09:14 AM

Fodor's Europe forum? Trip Advisor?

ribeirasacra Jan 5th, 2018 09:15 AM

three mins apart !!!

xcountry Jan 5th, 2018 09:19 AM

The Britons do come to mind. But I have experience that they can start swinging.

Surely there must be places when democracy has flourished, or something like that, where public speaking/arguing is encouraged? Gdańsk? Athens?

rialtogrl Jan 5th, 2018 09:50 AM

I've heard a lot of arguments in Venice. Usually about knowing where to go, being lost, or whether to take a gondola ride or not. Would that work for you? You have to bring your significant other to make this happen.

Belinda Jan 5th, 2018 09:52 AM

Come see me. I'll argue with you.

Masterphil Jan 5th, 2018 09:55 AM

"You don't want an argument!"

Christina Jan 5th, 2018 09:55 AM

It was trendy for a while in Paris to have "cafes philos" or a cafe philosophique (philosophy cafe). ONe was Les Phares at the Bastille place, where it started. Basically, there is a moderator who poses a philosophic question (or it may be chosen by group vote) and the group discusses it for and hour or two. So it's not a lecture but more a debate where everyone can express himself.

SO this was sort of a movement, there are some mostly in France but a few in other countries (one in London at the Institut Francais). I think there used to be one where I live (Washington DC) but not anymore. There are several in Paris, including still the Cafe des Phares. They have one in English in Paris at the Cafe de Flore on bd St Germain (you can find that on Meetup). The guy who ran the Phares website unfortunately died a few months ago so not sure what they are up to.

Nowadays I think Speakers Corner is on the internet, like Reddit.

IN fact, there is sort of a speakers corner in DC now, although not official. It's just north of the White House, Layfayette Square. But people are always standing out there with signs and pressing various causes, some are there every day.
https://www.whitehousehistory.org/pr...he-white-house

they have a Speakers Corner in Singapore, you can apply to speak
https://www.nparks.gov.sg/speakers-c...plication-form

Leely2 Jan 5th, 2018 09:57 AM

Wherever you go, there you are.

BritishCaicos Jan 5th, 2018 10:00 AM

Try hiring a car in Sicily, the returns are always a forum.

Try raising the topic of the Icelandic no fish zone whilst drinking in a Reykjavik bar.

Malta, they are always argumentative with anyone but Brits.

Sit in a bar in Oslo and describe how you found Helsinki to be such a cultured and cosmopolitan city.

Not Belgium, they don't have the energy to argue.

Or rural Scotland, we have more guns per head than Baltimore, arguments can end painfully.

Actually, the best way to start an argument in most of Europe, is to drive like an Italian.

xcountry Jan 5th, 2018 10:03 AM

Wonderful ideas. I am tired of social media arguing where disagreeing is too easy.

And Fran Diavolo made me think of this when he told someone on the bull thread to read Hemingway. Imagine standing in front of the Acropolis and quoting Hemingway, who(m)ever he is? What a thrill.

"whether to take a gondola ride or not."

My wife fell in love with the gondolier - is that what they are called? The guy sang to her the entire time. She said she could switch just my ticket to an earlier flight home.

Belinda 6eme, no registration number?

blaire25 Jan 5th, 2018 10:06 AM

IS this a real thing?

Belinda Jan 5th, 2018 10:25 AM

You know I don't live in the 6eme. Hope a velo and head uphill!

See, we're already arguing! :-D

BigRuss Jan 5th, 2018 11:42 AM

<<Actually, the best way to start an argument in most of Europe, is to drive like an Italian.>>

Northern Italian - anywhere south of Milan they'll curse northern Italian drivers as "Tedeschi."

Tedeschi are Germans.

Fra_Diavolo Jan 5th, 2018 01:19 PM

>>>And Fran Diavolo made me think of this when he told someone on the bull thread to read Hemingway. Imagine standing in front of the Acropolis and quoting Hemingway, who(m)ever he is? What a thrill.<<<

¿Que?

xcountry Jan 5th, 2018 01:59 PM

WTH

Ok then - on the steps of the Museu Nacional d'Art de Catalunya in Barcelona. Looking down at the fountain. Exchanging ideas with others on the great issues of the day, like um independence for all.

The point is to get away from all this social media crap and back to the grand days of public debate. Face to face. Ten steps and turn.

Fra_Diavolo Jan 5th, 2018 02:14 PM

>>>WTH<<<

Watch a couple of episodes of Fawlty Towers and get back to me.

outwest Jan 5th, 2018 02:15 PM

I find that after an all night transatlantic flight in economy class almost everywhere is a good place to argue.


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