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marcym20 Oct 7th, 2003 01:08 PM

best beach to just relax and kick back for 2 weeks?
 
Our family of 4 is taking three months to travel around Europe. My kids, 13 and 14, are fluent in French, and we wanted to go to a beach in France where we could just "plop" as my husband says. I really want more "peace" than I do night life, but a beautful sandy beach is a must. I've been searching the internet, but can't decide between Cannes, Villefranche Sur Mer, Nice, Cap de Adge. These are all places I found villas I could afford. I would appreciate any advise! Thanks, M

Intrepid Oct 7th, 2003 01:48 PM

Sounds like a great idea! My only concern would be how "sandy" those beaches really are. I know that some I've seen would be better described as "gravel-laden" than sandy, but I could (hopefully) be wrong. Am sure others will comment.

davidjac Oct 7th, 2003 02:30 PM

Nice is all rocks. Cannes does have sand but most of the beaches are privatetly operated and there will be a high cost for months on the beach. Most importantly is when are you going? Southern France is not a winter resort.

marcym20 Oct 7th, 2003 02:37 PM

I only want to spend two weeks on the beach. the rest of the time I will be moving around. OK Nice is out. What about Cannes or Villefranche sur mer?

mclaurie Oct 7th, 2003 02:40 PM

In general, from (and including) Cannes and west is sandy, east of Cannes is pebbly. The beach in Villefranche is small but I think sandy. One of the nicest beaches is in Juan les Pins but this is a BUSY town at night where all the nightclubs are. I'm not familiar with Cap de Adge but I think there's a nudist colony there (called naturalism in French):) just FYI for the kids. I would try looking in Cap D'Antibes. It's a good beach & not too busy, not too quiet. Even though I'm not usually a fan of Cannes, I'd pick that of the options you provided.

marcym20 Oct 7th, 2003 04:16 PM

Thank you for the response. If there is any other beach town worth considering, please let me know. I am not limited to those few I mentioned. Thanks

Weadles Oct 7th, 2003 05:09 PM

Would you consider Brittany or Normandy instead of the Riveria which has few areas with sandy beaches? If so, post again. Thanks!

Surfergirl Oct 7th, 2003 06:09 PM

We didn't spend that long (I wish!) several summers ago, but we rented a place in Le Cannet (just outside of Cannes) with a pool, and easy access to all of the French Riviera. From there, we sort of drifted from day to day, beach to beach, with kids, so we got a pretty good feel for the beaches. Generally, west of Juan les Pins (including JLP) the beaches are sandy. East, they're rocky.

The best beach for kids (IMO) and the best place for what you want would probably be Ste. Maxime. There's tons of families that go there, and I remember there were lots of rental homes to choose from. They have boat and paddle boat rentals, along with windsurfing and waterskiing. Really good beaches. A couple of blocks north of the beach are a ton of good restaurants in all price ranges and evening market stalls to walk around and browze. We had the best paella in one of these restaurants!

Ste Maxime is close enough to San Tropez that you can get in the car, and drive there for a day at the beach (Tahiti beach was incredible!)or just a walk around town.

It's also not really that far from Cannes, which has great public and private beaches, with lots of kids.

We loved Pirates Beach at Juan les Pins; they have pretty good food at the restaurant there as well.

The private beaches are cool, because they give you a mattress and umbrella, and bring drinks and food to you. They also have changing and showering facilities as well. But if you want to do the public beach thing, you can buy a cheap umbrella and towel along any of the streets in each town by the ocean.

Have a great trip!

Vincent Oct 8th, 2003 01:29 AM

Cap d'Agde is a gloomy, 70s, complex that not only accommodates Europe's largest nudist camp, but is also infamous for being swingers' paradise, be it indoors in dedicated clubs or informally in the dunes ! So if it's your scene, why not, but for a family holiday, there might be a problem...

4totravel Oct 8th, 2003 03:51 AM

Nice and points east the beaches are rocky...but go west the beaches are sandy - St Maxime is a good choice as is St. Tropez - beautiful beaches there - although a bit pricey to stay at the private beaches everyday (for us). We stayed last summer in Cavalaire-sur-Mer just west of St. Tropez and really enjoyed it. Nothing glamorous about it - you'll be truly able to practice your french - no english speakers to be found when we were there!

A lot of rental proerties in the area - I would say from St. Tropex to St. Maxime to Port Grimaud, Cavalaire - easy to find and less expensive.

There are quite a few local wineries in the area as well as olive farms.

We visited Cannes for the day - spent it at the beach - although the private beach we stayed at was very nice, friendly and acomodating it was our least favorite city on the Cote D'Azur - we enjoyed Nice much more although the beaches are very rocky (wear swim sandals and it is no big deal - it is actually kind of nice not getting sand all over you.)

Have fun!

Vincent Oct 8th, 2003 05:53 AM

The best French Med beaches, with the best climate and the most scenic nature around are to be found in Corsica. This island is a gem so far frequented by European tourists. It might make an interesting alternative. The tourist office has a website: http://www.visit-corsica.com

dffisher Oct 8th, 2003 05:59 AM

Spent a month in Southern France and Juan les Pins definitely has the best beaches!

StCirq Oct 8th, 2003 06:07 AM

If it's sand you want, and you don't care about nightlife, consider Sète. It has miles of sandy beaches, is the last of the "real" fishing villages (well, it's a lot bigger than a village now, but that's how it likes to think of itself), and has plenty of local color.

I just traveled along the Med from Sète to Le Grau-du-Roi and, apart from La Grande Motte, which is a rather architecturally bizarre resort, was pleasantly surprised at the nice beach towns and the endless stretches of sand.

Tulips Oct 8th, 2003 06:57 AM

I like Juan Les Pins; it has nice beaches and is not as 'snobby' as Cannes; your children will like it too; it is very lively. Some of the best beaches are near St Tropez. Lovely place to stay too, but very expensive. If you stay in St Maxime you can take the boat to St Tropez; much faster and more convenient than car. Cap d'Antibes has a sandy beach at Plage de la Garoupe; mostly private beach clubs (you pay for a sunbed). There is a sandy public beach in Antibes itself too. My children are 9 and 11, and they really like Juan les Pins.

marcym20 Oct 8th, 2003 07:19 AM

Thank you for all of this great information. I think I'll stay away from the nudist thing. My daughter would happily throw off her clothes, but my son would have nothing to do with that! Maybe we will check it out for a day, that is if we could stop giggling! Great point about Nice being rocky. That might actually be nice for a change. I forget how annoying that sand can get! I will definately check out Ste Maxime. How do you know if the beaches are public or private? Can anyone go onto a private beach if they are willing to pay? How much does it usually cost to rent the chairs and umbrellas? (i'm really going to need that for a long day at the beach) Is Juan les pins public or private? Keep all this great info coming. I really appreciate it!

mclaurie Oct 8th, 2003 07:59 AM

Many of the private beaches are attached to restaurants. You can rent chairs/umbrellas for half day or whole day (& sometimes by the hour). In general, private beaches are open to anyone if you pay. The exception would be a beach owned by a hotel that might only allow their guests. I don't remember prices but it can get steep for 4 if you're going every day (maybe 10e/day/person) but there might be weekly passes.

The beach in Juan les Pins is public but I think there may have been a parking fee (can't remember). I also think there were chairs you could rent there.

As an alternative to renting a villa, you might want to check out the Hotel Castel Garoupe in Cap D'Antibes. http://www.hotel-castel-garoupe.fr/htfr/ow2.htm

I've not been there but another Fodor's poster had mentioned it a while ago and it sounded very interesting although not fancy. It's an apt. style hotel in Cap D'Antibes right on or near the beach & very close to the posh Hotel du Cap. The apartments have kitchenettes & the top price listed for an apt for 4 in high season is 240e/night (which I think includes continental breakfast & free parking)but there are some cheaper apts as well. Cap D'Antibes is not far from Juan les Pins if you wanted to go beach hopping. I think it may also have a/c which would be a major benefit (for me LOL) vs renting a villa. Most private villas don't have a/c (even the most luxurious). If you're going to be there in July/August, it can get VERY hot.

Tulips Oct 8th, 2003 08:14 AM

Marcym; it's easy to tell if the beach is private; there are sunbeds and umbrellas in the same colour, whereas on a public beach you bring everything yourself. In Juan les Pins/Cap d'Antibes, they charge up to 15 euros for a sunbed and umbrella per day. These beaches have restaurants and bar service; this is very nice to do a few times! There are lots of these beaches in Juan les Pins as well. I am not a fan of Cannes; it is very expensive, service can be rude, and there are quite a few "undesirable" people around at night. But if you want to experience Cannes; get beach chairs at the beach of one of the big hotels; Martinez, Carlton, Majestic. You may have to reserve chairs in advance if you go in August. Then just sit back and enjoy watching the people on the beach. You can order drinks on the beach, but if you want to keep down costs, I would advise you to eat a sandwich or pannini on the boulevard at lunchtime. We go to the south of France every summer with our children (I live in Belgium).

Tulips Oct 8th, 2003 08:20 AM

And about the costs of these beaches; a club sandwich served on the beach at the Martinez will set you back 25 euros. Often beaches will charge more for sunbeds if you are on the first row by the sea (very sought after on the Martinez beach). The people watching on these beaches is great though! St Tropez has some really fabulous beaches with very popular restaurants too. Try booking beach chairs and a table for lunch at Club 55.

marcym20 Oct 9th, 2003 01:41 PM

OK, I have narrowed it down to the Ste Maxime /San Tropes/Le lavendou area to stay for two weeks, but after 3 days of searching, I have been unable to locate any rental properties with three bedrooms. There are tons in Cannes and Nice. Any suggestions?

Tulips Oct 10th, 2003 01:01 AM

Marcym, I don't know how useful these are, but I have a magazine here with rental properties, and some of the agencies are:
www.blatge.com
www.champs-elysees-immo.com
www.burger-davis.com
www.nova.fr/faidherbe
These are just a few offering villas near St Tropez, but I have no idea of the price range. If you go to that area, try and book at one of the beach clubs, like Club 55, at least once; it's great fun.

mclaurie Oct 10th, 2003 04:53 AM

I just did a google search for villa rentals in ste maxime and this was one of the first that came up. It sleeps 6.

http://www.locationsmer.com/Location....php?view=1590

I'm less familiar with this area than further east. I found the website justfrance.com from the classifieds in Harvard magazine. The area around St Tropez is listed separately from the Nice/Cannes area on their site. Maybe that's why you're having problems?

Here's the link to the section you're interested in. I notice there are some listings in Ramatuelle. I have been there. It's very nice & quite near St Tropez.

http://www.justfrance.com/properties/cotevar.html

4totravel Oct 10th, 2003 05:10 AM

Check out www.frenchconnections.co.uk - privatley owned apartments and homes to rent direct from the owner. Most of the rental costs are negotiated in euros or british sterling - keep that in mind when you are looking at the prices.

Bormes les Mimosas is another town to check out - its beach areas are sandy (although I thought it was crowded compared to other beaches we visited)- there is a vineyard to visit within walking distance to the beach (Faviere) where you can fill up your jugs for wine on the beach or for home later (approx 2 euro for a 2 liter bottle). It also it has a cute little hill top village to visit.

FLTENNIS Oct 10th, 2003 07:24 AM

ok, you got my interest up, and may change my Bordeaux area trip plans to the beaches instead. Where does one fly into from paris to be closest to Ste. Maxime / San Tropez area/ thanks.

FLTENNIS Oct 10th, 2003 07:31 AM

Ps, which area is the least pricey / best value to use as a base.....

4totravel Oct 10th, 2003 08:44 AM

You can fly into Nice and St. Tropez/St. Maxime is about a half hourish drive from there (maybe a little more).

IMHO if you stay anywhere west of St Tropez the prices are more reasonable for private beach rentals, fod at restaurants, apartment and home rentals. St. Tropez was really expensive (we traveled with our kids and at one time we paid $45.00 for 4 scoops of ice cream and two drinks - buy did we enjoy those drinks on the beach!!)

Andre Oct 10th, 2003 08:57 AM

Nice to St. Tropez in 1/2 an hour? I don't think so, unless you're going by helicopter! Never done it, but would expect the drive to take about 1.5/2 hours.

marcym20, if you're looking for something REALLY laid back, then perhaps you should look at the island of PORQUEROLLES. Heard it's great.

www.porquerolles.com

Hope this helps,
Andre

mclaurie Oct 10th, 2003 09:41 AM

The trip from Nice (closest airport) to St Tropez is looong, especially during the summer. Minimum 2 hours drive. The train only goes as far as St Raphael & then you have to go by bus to St Tropez OR get off the train at St Raphael , take the bus to Ste Maxime & then ferry to St Tropez. Here's a post on that

Author: Feiny
Date: 05/12/2003, 11:16 am
Message: We took the noon train to St Raphael (maybe 1.5 hours or so), connected to the bus at the train station, (only a 10 minute wait), and rode the bus into St Tropez. We SHOULD have exited the bus in St Maxime, and boarded the boat. The bus leaves you off in St Maxime just across the street from the harbor. However, even in April, the last leg of the bus from St Maxime took at least another l.5 hours or so while the boat would have been 15 minutes! I think it took us a total of about 4.5 hours. We corrected our mistake on the way back. We boarded the boat for St Maxime (which leaves every 15 or 30 minutes), walked to the bus stop (which was right there), boarded the bus which comes every 30 minutes or so, and rode to the train station in St Raphael and then on to Nice. PS. The price you save on the bus ticket about makes up for the boat. Even though we spent more time than necessary getting there, the ride was gorgeous the whole way. And the small towns along the way were so lovely. The boat ride was gorgeous too, as you can imagine.
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I recently read they were planning ferry service to St Tropez from Nice airport so maybe that will make this trip faster/easier.

ecat Oct 10th, 2003 10:07 AM

My vote is for Sitges, Spain right outside Barcelona. ahhhhhhh pure bliss.......

ecat Oct 10th, 2003 10:09 AM

Sorry I know my suggestion was not in France but I got lost in the title and my mind went straight to Spain...

Tulips Oct 10th, 2003 11:40 AM

St Maxime is less pricey than St Trop, and there is a boat that takes you right to the centre of St Trop from St Maxime. The road from St Maxime to St Tropez alone can easily take 1 hour in summer (believe me, I've done it). Nice to St Trop can take 3 hours if you are unlucky. I have heard great things about Porquerolles; no cars allowed, peace and quiet, but haven't been yet.


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