Beaune Bottle Battle: Château de Pommard vs. Caves Patriarche Père & Fils
Sep 3rd, 2016, 12:21 PM
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Beaune Bottle Battle: Château de Pommard vs. Caves Patriarche Père & Fils
I believe we will only have time for one of these two tours. If anyone has a recommendation of one over the other, it would be appreciated. Cheers!
Sep 3rd, 2016, 12:52 PM
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Pommard is one of my favourite wines.
(no more in the cellar, and quite expensive to rebuild the stock).
Now I didn't visit either of these chateaux / cellars.
Just by the name, I'd avoid a cellar (might be reseller) and Chateau seems like a producer.
I may be totally wrong too, but it may give you angle for more research...
(no more in the cellar, and quite expensive to rebuild the stock).
Now I didn't visit either of these chateaux / cellars.
Just by the name, I'd avoid a cellar (might be reseller) and Chateau seems like a producer.
I may be totally wrong too, but it may give you angle for more research...
Sep 3rd, 2016, 03:58 PM
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<i>Just by the name, I'd avoid a cellar (might be reseller) and Chateau seems like a producer.
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Burgundy has developed a system of <i>négociants</i> who are not only reseller but also owners of cellars where the wine is aged.
http://www.vins-bourgogne.fr/nos-vig...2399,9249.html
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Burgundy has developed a system of <i>négociants</i> who are not only reseller but also owners of cellars where the wine is aged.
http://www.vins-bourgogne.fr/nos-vig...2399,9249.html
Sep 3rd, 2016, 07:52 PM
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Depends on how much "tasting" you want to do! LOL!
Do you want to walk or drive? I know you folks love your vin!
Patriarche Père & Fils is a 10 minute walk from my hotel. I do plan on visiting Pommard also which is a 8-10 minute drive. But, I am staying in Beaune for 4 nights.
Do you want to walk or drive? I know you folks love your vin!
Patriarche Père & Fils is a 10 minute walk from my hotel. I do plan on visiting Pommard also which is a 8-10 minute drive. But, I am staying in Beaune for 4 nights.
Sep 3rd, 2016, 10:32 PM
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We had a great time visiting Patriarche Père & Fils and it is not a reseller, they sell their own wine.
It is a self guided tour in the cellars, very atmospheric and we had a lot of fun.
Pommard is also fantastic...can't go wrong!
It is a self guided tour in the cellars, very atmospheric and we had a lot of fun.
Pommard is also fantastic...can't go wrong!
Sep 3rd, 2016, 11:09 PM
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We visited Pommard a couple of years ago; very enjoyable. They had a pop-art exhibition on in their small museum. It's was just our family and someone showed us around the cellars. We didn't book.
There was a small restaurant on the corner of the street where we had a pleasant lunch on the terrace.
There was a small restaurant on the corner of the street where we had a pleasant lunch on the terrace.
Sep 4th, 2016, 02:25 AM
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We had a great time in Beaune but were overwhelmed with choice. We already knew and liked several different Burgundies, but the selection here is on a galactic scale. We wanted to buy a bottle for a wine enthusiast friend, but in the end gave up. We felt like we were in the Burgundy version of this movie scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHIcmoY3_lE
We dined at Loiseau de Vignes because they had a huge selection of Burgundy wines available by the glass, but after three different glasses each, we had just scratched the tip of the Burgundy iceberg.
Next time, we're taking a few guided tours and dragging our Burgundy expert friend with us.
We dined at Loiseau de Vignes because they had a huge selection of Burgundy wines available by the glass, but after three different glasses each, we had just scratched the tip of the Burgundy iceberg.
Next time, we're taking a few guided tours and dragging our Burgundy expert friend with us.
Sep 4th, 2016, 09:10 AM
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If you go on any of these, wander down a cellar tasting wines off a barrel types I suggest take care.
These wines can be left out over night without a wine stopper. So before you grimace and say "this is lousy" just check it has not gone off....
These wines can be left out over night without a wine stopper. So before you grimace and say "this is lousy" just check it has not gone off....
Sep 4th, 2016, 11:37 AM
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On our Rhone river cruise we were taken to Beaune and to one of the many shops offering a cellar tasting. none of the wines we were offered seemed any better than what I can get at home at a better price [bilbo - they appeared to have poured from bottles, FWTW].
if you are really interested I suggest doing some research before you go into an estate that you already like - like Pommard for example - so that you are already familiar with that style of wine and know whether you like it or not.
if you are really interested I suggest doing some research before you go into an estate that you already like - like Pommard for example - so that you are already familiar with that style of wine and know whether you like it or not.
