newcomers often think when thei post sinks into Fodor's black hole it is gone and it is unless someone responds or you ;top' the thread yourself - just say "topping" to bring it back up - yes very confusing and frustrating to see two separate posts asking same exact questions!

>>newcomers often think when thei post sinks into Fodor's black hole it is gone <<

PQ -- that does not apply to this OP He started both threads almost simultaneously and has been regularly posting to both of them . . .