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StuDudley Jan 31st, 2008 03:48 PM

>>I just cannot comprehend the difference in the cost for a car rented through Autoeurope when using one of the alternate sites.<<

That kinda bothers me too. What's the old saying "if it seems too good to be true - it probaby is"

I am still worried that:

If I get an inclusive rental through the French site and I present a US drivers license, will they give me a car and if so, will I be covered by insurance. Perhaps the insurance only covers French or EU residents.

If I decline insurance (with no deduction in rate) and have a claim, will the US CC insurance company find a way to not pay since I paid for insurance (but declined CDW). Note that Michael indicated that he witnessed someone who was NOT allowed to decline CDW???

Note - so far in this thread, no US resident has really rented a car (reserved, picked-up, returned, and received final billing) yet through the FR or Spanish site. That worries me. I have a huge amount of confidence with renting through AE in Maine - I'm worried about renting through an affiliate in Europe.

Repeat - "if it seems too good to be true - it probaby is".

Stu Dudley

Sher Jan 31st, 2008 04:15 PM

Stu. I am almost tempted to call Autoeurope in the US and ask a question about the billing difference.
I have doubts that I would easily get someone on the phone that could answer the question, but maybe I would get lucky and there would be someone available for an explanation.
For this next trip, I did buy trip insurance that included car rental coverage with no problem about declining or accepting the CDW from the car rental company.
I needed to buy the insurance anyway, so I just picked a policy that included rental insurance.
After many rentals in Europe, I have never had an accident and I too would be more comfortable if I could find someone who had rented through one of the alternate sites and submitted a claim.
Afterall, the difference in cost would go a long way toward extras on our trip but not at any risk I must say.

StuDudley Jan 31st, 2008 04:21 PM

If you call AE, get the long term/lease "desk". Perhaps ask for Manny if he is still there. I think the "senior" people work the long term rental desk.

Stu Dudley

kerouac Jan 31st, 2008 09:19 PM

I rent two or three cars a month through AutoEurope. They are almost always supplied by Europcar, which bare glances at the voucher -- all they want is to get the name to check their reservation system. (Half of the employees know me now and don't even look at the voucher when they see me walk up to the counter.)

There is nothing about nationality on any AutoEurope voucher -- or on a car rental contract. I don't see how anybody could possibly worry about that angle.

However, for those who are really worried, I advise paying through the nose at the US site -- it probably helps to keep the rates down for the rest of us. And don't forget to refuse any discounts that you might find on airline tickets while you're at it. ;)

Sher Feb 1st, 2008 03:57 AM

Well.
I decided to call Autoeurope. I called the US number.

I got a very nice person on the phone who immediately knew about the difference in the price and called it "ethnic" pricing.
He advised not to do it BUT when I asked him if I had a voucher from Autoeurope.es or Autoeurope.uk when I appeared at the rental counter in Portugal, what would the agents at a particular agency know or care.

To that he had no answer. He just advised not to do it but would not commit if it was illegal. Also, he would not commit if the said agent would stop you.

I didn't get into accidents, etc with him.

He insisted that I was getting ethnic pricing from Carjet, with whom I have rented in Portugal before. I told him that at no time did Carjet ask nor did they care where I was from, he had no answer but insisted that I should not do it because it was ethnic pricing and somehow in his mind was not exactly correct.

Needless to say, I am not renting a car from Autoeurope when I can get one from Carjet for half cost.

kerouac Feb 1st, 2008 05:00 AM

AutoEurope-US is just trying to milk Americans for anything it can get. They would probably also advise you against having a Portuguese friend rent a car and just put you on the contract as an additional driver. They wouldn't know exactly why, but it would just be so much better if you rented directly from them instead....

NeoPatrick Feb 1st, 2008 05:32 AM

"AutoEurope-US is just trying to milk Americans for anything it can get."

Is that why on my most recent rental with them (which I confirmed on the phone) I said I wanted the full insurance, but the agent firmly kept telling me why it was foolish to do that if I had coverage on the credit card? I kept saying, it was just easier and is what we always did, but he told me I really should check with the card first and then call back, especially since the UK rental would not only cost me a lot for insurance through them, but also would not give me a zero deductible like my credit card might. He was right, and we later confirmed without the insurance. AutoEurope would have made a considerable profit on selling us their insurance, but their agent TALKED me out of it. That's not what I call "milking Americans for anything they can get".

ira Feb 1st, 2008 05:48 AM

Hi All,

Re: "Ethnic" pricing.

Different markets require different rates and offers to keep customers.

In the UK, CC cards don't offer insurance, so the brokers write contracts with CDW or Super CDW.

In the US, you can have ins on your CC, so the rate is higher, but you can decline CDW.

Germans just won't pay as much as Americans, nor will Brits, etc.

Why don't the US agents approve of "ethnic" pricing? It cuts into their income.

((I))

ira Feb 1st, 2008 05:51 AM

Hi T,

>You may be unable to receive benefits in Australia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, and New Zealand. Please contact your vehicle rental agency before you travel.

I know that Ireland, Israel, Italy require CDW. With the possible exception of some MC Platinum cards, the CC companies won't offer insurance on cars rented there.

((I))

lizziea06 Feb 1st, 2008 06:00 AM

The credit card companies will offer insurance in Israel or Ireland, but with the caveat that the local car rental companies can refuse to accept it. It's a legal stipulation. I know from what I speak, as I used to manage the car rental insurance program for a credit card company.

terri58blue Feb 1st, 2008 10:23 AM

Thanks for your reply Ira and others. So I'm thinking I'm safe (as safe as I can be) declining CDW and using my CC insurance since I am renting the car out of Germany.

And, I've learned more than I thought I ever would about car rental abroad!

Anyone ever used EuropeByCar? I think they are a consolidator. Filed a claim with them? They come up cheaper than AE, so I may present the offer from them to AE and be secure in knowing AE is a good rental company with good customer service.

ira Feb 1st, 2008 10:32 AM

Hi t,

Whenever you find a lower rate tell AE.

They usually cive a better price. If they can't, they will tell you why.

((I))

NeoPatrick Feb 1st, 2008 12:25 PM

I agree with ira on that. One reason why sometimes AE is higher is that if you selected a pick up location or a return location specifically, you "tied their hands" as to which agency they must use, as those are specific addresses for Avis or Hertz or whomever. Sometimes when you call with another price they will suggest that they can match that price IF you switch your actual pick up location to another agency's.

tedgale Feb 15th, 2008 04:20 AM

bookmarking

DianeD Feb 18th, 2008 07:51 PM

Has anyone had any experience with cars4holidays? They are a consolidator. I have reserved a car with them for 1 week in Spain in March. The car will be through Aurigacrown. They are MUCH cheaper than the quotes I got from AutoEurope using either the US or Spain site. I am a bit nervous about using an unknown company and wonder why they are so much less expensive.

ira Feb 19th, 2008 02:29 AM

Hi D,

Call ae, tell them about the lower rate and ask them to match it.

If they can't they will explain why.

((I))

Philip Mar 23rd, 2008 06:17 AM

I posted this in January. Since that time, has any North American renter tried using autoeurope.fr site instead of .com?

If so, any issues in practice that you think we can learn from?

Thanks Philp

hlocke1 Mar 23rd, 2008 06:49 AM

Hi Philip --

I went ahead and reserved through the Italian version of the site. We translated everything while also walking through the US site, and the screens were identical. I'll know if it was problem-free after we return at the end of May. So, at least there is one person trying it...

Stay tuned!
Heather.

StuDudley Mar 23rd, 2008 07:02 AM

Did you call or just use their web site?

Remember, if you call, you can usually get additional discounts. Last week I got an AAA 10% discount from their "already discounted rate".

I'll also call on May 1 & ask them to check the current rates to see if they have been lowered. This saved us over $100 in '06.

Stu Dudley

esm Mar 23rd, 2008 07:23 AM

I'm looking for a rental in May. I have a Capital One cc which I believe will provides insurance. Is American Express better due to easier handling of claims/customer service?


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