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jewelhawg Oct 11th, 2008 03:47 PM

Attire for Vatican
 
Going to Italy next week and after reading different posts on this website, I need clarification on wearing a skirt to the Vatican.

I know to keep shoulders covered. But, is a black shirt that's 2" above the knee...along with black stockings...okay to wear to the Vatican? Thanks!

nytraveler Oct 11th, 2008 05:28 PM

They usually want skirts down to the knee at a minimum. You might get in or you might not - depending on the particular guards on duty.

Why not wear pants? Or a longer skirt?

suze Oct 11th, 2008 05:48 PM

Agreeing with the idea above. Why risk it? Wear something more modest that you know will not be questioned on that day. Aren't you going to have a pair of pants with you?


traveller69 Oct 11th, 2008 09:07 PM

When we were there a few weeks ago someone (man) on our tour was wearing shorts. They didn't even bat an eye. I don't think they are as strict as you think. I saw females with sleeveless blouses etc everyone was extremely casual. If you must wear a short skirt carry a large scarf and tie it around your waist when you enter.

kybourbon Oct 12th, 2008 04:47 AM

I've often seen men/boys get by in long shorts, but never women.

bigtyke Oct 12th, 2008 05:03 AM

38 years ago, my sister was denied entrance into St. Marks (Venice) because she was sleeveless. So she wore her dress with sleeves when we went to the Vatican. Unfortunately, it was above her knees and she was yanked out of line at St. Peter's!

suze Oct 12th, 2008 11:34 AM

Or how about taking a longer skirt?
:-)

ParadiseLost Oct 12th, 2008 11:48 AM

I could be wrong but I think the dress code is more lax for the Vatican Museums but very strict for St. Peter's Basilica.
Regards, Walter

Cathinjoetown Oct 12th, 2008 12:04 PM

Wow! A skirt 2" above the knee would have just been acceptable at a midwest parochial high school in 1975. Vatican must really be strict because coupled with black tights it would practically be a nun's garb. Ah well, when in Rome or in this case, when in the Vatican...

quokka Oct 12th, 2008 12:12 PM

Is it that hard to pay respect to the culture and faith of the people in a country where you are a guest?

amsdon Oct 12th, 2008 12:14 PM

You must have great legs and be very careful sitting.

Go for a longer skirt or pants as suggested.

Pegontheroad Oct 12th, 2008 12:21 PM

I think it's very odd that you ask this question a week before you will be at the Vatican. You have plenty of time to bring something more appropriate.

Are all your skirts that short? Don't you have any pants you could wear?

TRSW Oct 12th, 2008 12:54 PM

quokka,

Very, very good point. You are a guest in their country and they are not asking too much.

Tom

kerouac Oct 12th, 2008 12:55 PM

Ridiculous question. Everybody knows what "modest attire" means in Western Europe and it certainly is not difficult to find something in your wardrobe that will be appropriate without having to ask!

historytraveler Oct 12th, 2008 02:20 PM

One more point...if you have to ask the question, it is likely to be a problem.

Padraig Oct 12th, 2008 02:41 PM

To be fair to jewelhawg, it is her first time to ask this question, and I get the impression that she is making her first visit to Europe, BUT...

it seems that every time somebody asks about what to wear when visiting the Vatican, the underlying question is "can I get away with less than full compliance?"

The answer is that maybe you can, but why push the limits?

jewelhawg Oct 12th, 2008 04:00 PM

Good night...I was simply asking the question because I've never been there. I just heard last week you weren't suppose to expose your shoulders, but I didn't know about knees until yesterday when I'd read no shorts. I didn't want to be disrespectful so I was asking for clarification...not a lecture.

Originally I was just going to take jeans on the trip until I heard everyone dresses up in Italy so I thought about a black skirt I could take.

I'll stick with jeans and black slacks.

I've asked Fodorites suggestions before, but never have I been given such rude comments. Get a grip!




Padraig Oct 12th, 2008 04:23 PM

jewelhawg, you indicated that you had "read different posts on this website", and yet you asked the question that you posed.

Given what has been posted here about the requirements on many previous occasions, it is remarkable that you should have had any doubts.

Do a search on "vatican dress" and you should understand why the responses to your question had a tone that did not please you.

And do bear in mind that you got your answer.

jewelhawg Oct 12th, 2008 04:58 PM

I was told by our travel agent "no bare shoulders".

On Fodors, I read "no shorts"... "capris are fine". I didn't read anything about skirts. I understand that a mini-skirt would be offensive...I wouldn't wear one to my church...hey, I wouldn't wear one anyway.

I'll be better off in just jeans and a black pair of pants...less to pack and tote around.


kybourbon Oct 12th, 2008 06:04 PM

I just got back from Italy two weeks ago and everyone wears jeans these days. The only problem packing them is they are heavy and if they get damp/wet take forever to dry.

It's not just the Vatican that has dress rules. Many churches have the same restrictions. Some will have people posted at the doors and others won't. I think it will be cold enough that you won't want to wear skirts anyway.

jewelhawg Oct 13th, 2008 07:05 AM

I emailed our travel agent over the weekend with the same question and here's his response:

"Skirts are exceptable, even if just above the knee. We where there last month and my wife wore a skirt. Just no shorts for women or bare shoulders."

However...to be safe, I'll probably take the Fodorite's advice.

suze Oct 13th, 2008 07:11 AM

I think you should pack the skirt, it sounds like a good versatile travel outfit with black tights. Just wear something else on the Vatican day is all.

I'm not sure why you think it's a "lecture" for people to answer your question with their various perspectives.


jewelhawg Oct 13th, 2008 07:28 AM

suze...I just got my "panties in a wad" when I read SOME of the replies. Most replies were answered in a tone like I would have answered...but I found a few to be curt.

LN Oct 13th, 2008 07:31 AM

Jewelhawg

No one wants you to get yanked out of line and not get to visit The Vatican. We have all seen how the guards can be and how the rules change slightly one way or another.

It is much wiser to just cover the shoulders, cover the knees, and put something on your head!!

Ciao!!

Alec Oct 13th, 2008 07:44 AM

'put something on your head'

No headcovering required.

mediaqueen Feb 21st, 2009 07:55 PM

ok so what is the decision? Can you wear capris if they cover your knees and yes the replies have been rude. I want to follow
what is right too for Rome where I live people wears shorts in
the summer to church. but when in Rome

kybourbon Feb 21st, 2009 09:05 PM

>>>>where I live people wears shorts in
the summer<<< In European cities you don't see locals wearing shorts at all.

Yes, you will get in with capris.

amsdon Feb 22nd, 2009 07:11 AM

I guess Jewlhawg is back now since she went in Oct.
Perhaps she will still get back with us with her findings.

It sounds like the goals is this: to wear shorts and sleeveless tops wherever you want to because they are so much more comfortable & that's what you do back home.
Is that the idea? I am not sure the goal should be to allow whatever is the norm back home...

The levels of good taste and class are constantly being challenged in order to lower them. Some are forcing a line to be drawn. Class is voluntary, not imposed.
So Mediaqueen, just use prudence. When in doubt, don't.

And as far as rude comments go had this been a thread about fashion & style you would have seen some real fireworks., this is nothing.


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