Arriving late on VCE, help!
Aug 9th, 2016, 04:57 PM
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Arriving late on VCE, help!
Hi everyone! I will be landing on Venice Airport (VCE) at 22:05 on August 16th with my brother. Someone was supposed to pick us up by car however, the person cannot do so anymore therefore I am concerned with arriving so late at night(immigration, customs, baggage claims) and not finding transportation/getting lost. We are staying in Sacile and I have checked Trenitalia's schedule both from Venezia S.Lucia(leaves at 23:04) and Venezia Mestre(leaves at 23:16).
I would like to ask for advice and suggestions on how to get to either S.Lucia or Mestre Station from the airport given the time.
Thank you in advance.
I would like to ask for advice and suggestions on how to get to either S.Lucia or Mestre Station from the airport given the time.
Thank you in advance.
Aug 9th, 2016, 05:13 PM
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Are you checking luggage? With carry on luggage, this is tight - with checked luggage I don't think you will make it.
Mestre would be better, you can take a taxi to the train station for about 35 euros.
Maybe, stay at a hotel close to Mestre station and take the train to Sacile the next morning? There is an ATVO bus to Mestre train station you could take instead of the taxi.
Maybe a private shuttle would work? You can check out GoOpti...
https://www.goopti.com/en/
Mestre would be better, you can take a taxi to the train station for about 35 euros.
Maybe, stay at a hotel close to Mestre station and take the train to Sacile the next morning? There is an ATVO bus to Mestre train station you could take instead of the taxi.
Maybe a private shuttle would work? You can check out GoOpti...
https://www.goopti.com/en/
Aug 9th, 2016, 08:08 PM
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The numbers do not add up in your favor.
Are you arriving on Aeroflot from Moscow? With baggage claim and passport control, it is super tight. The baggage claim at VCE has never been speedy.
First, forget Santa Lucia. It is further away from the VCE and the train leaves earlier. Forget bus. You can't wait even a minute buying tickets and wait for the next departure to get to the station.
Let's see how timing looks like, an optimistic case.
22:05 The plane actually arrives on time
22:25 You have deplaned and done with passport control
22:45 You luggage came out quickly
22:50 You hop onto taxi at VCE
23:05 You arrive at Mestre
23:15 Bought tickets, validated them, and wait for train -- coming in one minute.
If seems every things must be in your favor.
If you need to get Euro, it would add precious minutes.
If your plane is 10 minutes late, there are loads of planes arriving between 22:15-23:00 and you get further delayed every step of the way.
If it gets clear at VCE that you would not make the train, you can take a bus to Mestre to save expense and stay in Mestre. Pre research a hotel so you don't have to spend further time looking for one onto to find only to find undesirable hotels.
ATVO bus: It is 8€ one way.
http://www.atvo.it/allegati/aeroport....08.3.2016.pdf
Are you arriving on Aeroflot from Moscow? With baggage claim and passport control, it is super tight. The baggage claim at VCE has never been speedy.
First, forget Santa Lucia. It is further away from the VCE and the train leaves earlier. Forget bus. You can't wait even a minute buying tickets and wait for the next departure to get to the station.
Let's see how timing looks like, an optimistic case.
22:05 The plane actually arrives on time
22:25 You have deplaned and done with passport control
22:45 You luggage came out quickly
22:50 You hop onto taxi at VCE
23:05 You arrive at Mestre
23:15 Bought tickets, validated them, and wait for train -- coming in one minute.
If seems every things must be in your favor.
If you need to get Euro, it would add precious minutes.
If your plane is 10 minutes late, there are loads of planes arriving between 22:15-23:00 and you get further delayed every step of the way.
If it gets clear at VCE that you would not make the train, you can take a bus to Mestre to save expense and stay in Mestre. Pre research a hotel so you don't have to spend further time looking for one onto to find only to find undesirable hotels.
ATVO bus: It is 8€ one way.
http://www.atvo.it/allegati/aeroport....08.3.2016.pdf
Aug 10th, 2016, 10:28 AM
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Thank you guys for your reply. I appreciate all of them.
nytraveler: Yes, I have looked and if I am not mistaken, they end at 8pm.:/ So I was thinking about taking the Alilaguna boat bus since I've read that the they run until midnight to get to Venice but I'm negative that we will make it to the train to Sacile.:/
rialtogrl: Mestre gives us more time obviously and if we dont make it, the only option is to stay the night in Mestre anyway. The ATVO Bus I think doesn't work that late and I haven't heard about the private shuttle but I will check it out. Thank you for that info.
greg: We will be coming from Tokyo to Moscow then Venice. I agree with everything that you said and I think I will go with your suggestion. So, is there really an ATVO bus that late? I must have misunderstood the table I saw.
nytraveler: Yes, I have looked and if I am not mistaken, they end at 8pm.:/ So I was thinking about taking the Alilaguna boat bus since I've read that the they run until midnight to get to Venice but I'm negative that we will make it to the train to Sacile.:/
rialtogrl: Mestre gives us more time obviously and if we dont make it, the only option is to stay the night in Mestre anyway. The ATVO Bus I think doesn't work that late and I haven't heard about the private shuttle but I will check it out. Thank you for that info.
greg: We will be coming from Tokyo to Moscow then Venice. I agree with everything that you said and I think I will go with your suggestion. So, is there really an ATVO bus that late? I must have misunderstood the table I saw.
Aug 10th, 2016, 10:33 AM
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I forgot to answer some questions above..
rialtogrl: Yes, both my brother and I will have checked in luggage.
greg: I always change money at wherever airport I come from in case of emergencies or unfavorable situations like this.
rialtogrl: Yes, both my brother and I will have checked in luggage.
greg: I always change money at wherever airport I come from in case of emergencies or unfavorable situations like this.
Aug 10th, 2016, 11:01 AM
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You can buy the bus ticket from the driver or another ticket guy outside the bus.
The ATVO runs until after 1 am. Here is the schedule.
http://www.atvo.it/allegati/linee/li....08.3.2016.pdf
The ATVO runs until after 1 am. Here is the schedule.
http://www.atvo.it/allegati/linee/li....08.3.2016.pdf
Aug 10th, 2016, 11:37 AM
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You can check the on-time performance rating of your arriving flight to learn how often it's on time.
If you're flying Alitalia 7165 (code share Aeroflot 2422), it is on-time 70% of the time. That's pretty good. But the other 30% of the time it is delayed an average of 14 minutes.
http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...irportCode=VCE
If you're flying Alitalia 7165 (code share Aeroflot 2422), it is on-time 70% of the time. That's pretty good. But the other 30% of the time it is delayed an average of 14 minutes.
http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...irportCode=VCE
Aug 10th, 2016, 02:54 PM
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personally I would stay at the airport and sort myself out in the morning.
then you have no worries about late flight arrival, trying to find and catch the bus, buying tickets, getting to Mestre, etc.
An more radical idea would be to get the alilaguna or a water taxi into Venice itself, stay there overnight [obviously you need a hotel which has a 24 hour reception and check-in] then get a vaporetto to VSL and get the train from there.
I would suggest staying in/near San Marco so you can get the Alilaguna late at night [all 4 lines go there and the last one is at 00.40 - line Blu] and then take the vaporetto up the grand canal in the morning.
then you have no worries about late flight arrival, trying to find and catch the bus, buying tickets, getting to Mestre, etc.
An more radical idea would be to get the alilaguna or a water taxi into Venice itself, stay there overnight [obviously you need a hotel which has a 24 hour reception and check-in] then get a vaporetto to VSL and get the train from there.
I would suggest staying in/near San Marco so you can get the Alilaguna late at night [all 4 lines go there and the last one is at 00.40 - line Blu] and then take the vaporetto up the grand canal in the morning.
Aug 10th, 2016, 04:43 PM
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Annhig, did you mean for them to actually stay in the airport all night or go to a hotel near the airport?
If the OP hasn't been there, heading into Venice and perhaps spending a few hours the next morning walking around would be a great experience.
If they must get to Sacile asap, then take a taxi to a hotel near the Mestre station or stay near the airport in a hotel with a shuttle, and taxi to the station the next morning.
Easier to do that than worry about making a train. Once you get to Sacile, you would be going to bed anyway. You are just sleeping in a different place.
If the OP hasn't been there, heading into Venice and perhaps spending a few hours the next morning walking around would be a great experience.
If they must get to Sacile asap, then take a taxi to a hotel near the Mestre station or stay near the airport in a hotel with a shuttle, and taxi to the station the next morning.
Easier to do that than worry about making a train. Once you get to Sacile, you would be going to bed anyway. You are just sleeping in a different place.
Aug 10th, 2016, 05:59 PM
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>>personally I would stay at the airport and sort myself out in the morning. <<
I agree - a hotel near the airport or near the station in Venice. Then you don't have to run yourselves crazy trying to make these connections. You won't actually lose any usable time in Sacile if you don't get there until the next morning.
Relax -- book a night in Venice and travel on in the AM.
I agree - a hotel near the airport or near the station in Venice. Then you don't have to run yourselves crazy trying to make these connections. You won't actually lose any usable time in Sacile if you don't get there until the next morning.
Relax -- book a night in Venice and travel on in the AM.
Aug 10th, 2016, 06:11 PM
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>have you looked at the bus that goes from the airport to S Lucia?<
There is a bus from Marco Polo to Santa Lucia Station?
Where does it let you off at?
Or do you mean the #5 bus that travels from Marco Polo to Piazzale Roma?
Thin
There is a bus from Marco Polo to Santa Lucia Station?
Where does it let you off at?
Or do you mean the #5 bus that travels from Marco Polo to Piazzale Roma?
Thin
Aug 11th, 2016, 08:45 AM
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Annhig, did you mean for them to actually stay in the airport all night or go to a hotel near the airport?
If the OP hasn't been there, heading into Venice and perhaps spending a few hours the next morning walking around would be a great experience.>>
either, sassafras. as you say, if the OP hasn't been to Venice [or even if she has] it would be relatively easy to get the Alilaguna to a hotel in San Marco, then catch a vaporetto up the Grand Canal to the station in the morning. otherwise an airport hotel would IMO be preferable than dealing with buses and trains late at night.
If the OP hasn't been there, heading into Venice and perhaps spending a few hours the next morning walking around would be a great experience.>>
either, sassafras. as you say, if the OP hasn't been to Venice [or even if she has] it would be relatively easy to get the Alilaguna to a hotel in San Marco, then catch a vaporetto up the Grand Canal to the station in the morning. otherwise an airport hotel would IMO be preferable than dealing with buses and trains late at night.
Aug 11th, 2016, 09:17 AM
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How is dealing with the Alilaguna any different than dealing with a bus or a train? It takes way longer and they'd have to walk down to the dock to board one. Then they'd have to drag their luggage to whatever hotel, in the middle of the night, after a long flight? I would not do it, unless I was staying in Venice for awhile.
Staying overnight at Mestre FS (a few hotels are across the street) or even Piazzale Roma will take a lot less time to arrive in (or one of the airport hotels with a shuttle.) Last time I took the ATVO to Mestre it took about 20 minutes. Five minutes after that I was in my room. The next morning I was on the train to Trieste. Easy peasy.
Staying overnight at Mestre FS (a few hotels are across the street) or even Piazzale Roma will take a lot less time to arrive in (or one of the airport hotels with a shuttle.) Last time I took the ATVO to Mestre it took about 20 minutes. Five minutes after that I was in my room. The next morning I was on the train to Trieste. Easy peasy.
Aug 11th, 2016, 10:22 AM
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Have you LOOKED at a MAP??????
Why would you go to the station at Santa Lucia and have to basically do so by water to get a train which then stops at Mestre when you could go DIRECTLY TO Mestre in a cab?
Why would you go to the station at Santa Lucia and have to basically do so by water to get a train which then stops at Mestre when you could go DIRECTLY TO Mestre in a cab?
Aug 11th, 2016, 06:03 PM
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Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I'll most likely go with staying a night in Mestre hopefully I find one near the station cos I don't have internet then. I'm just worried that they don't have 24hour receptionist cos I've read some reviews about people getting locked out of their hotel despite informing them about their late arrival, check in only until 11pm, etc. So if any of you happen to know any hotels there good for a night's stay you could list it and i would gladly check it out. I hope they still have rooms available given this time of the year and only a few days away too.
Nonetheless, I appreciate everyone's effort to help out and share your ideas. You guys are awesome and super reliable.
Nonetheless, I appreciate everyone's effort to help out and share your ideas.
You guys are awesome and super reliable.
Aug 11th, 2016, 06:42 PM
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Here's one: http://www.hotelcortinamestre.it/
I am pretty sure they have around the clock reception, but just write to them and tell them the situation. There are a couple of other bigger hotels there too, certainly they will have 24 hour reception. Just find one that looks good and send an inquiry about getting in late. Booking.com is a good resource, because you can use the handy dandy map....
I am pretty sure they have around the clock reception, but just write to them and tell them the situation. There are a couple of other bigger hotels there too, certainly they will have 24 hour reception. Just find one that looks good and send an inquiry about getting in late. Booking.com is a good resource, because you can use the handy dandy map....
Aug 11th, 2016, 09:29 PM
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It is not a foregone conclusion that you need to stay in Mestre. If you are planning to find a place to stay in Mestre after you get there, you have at least these options, in the order of most likely.
1. When you are ready to leave VCE, if it is clear that you would miss the train. Find a pre-selected hotel meeting your budget and requirements.
2. If the plane arrives early and you get out of VCE quickly. Zip to to Mestre station and catch the last train to Sacile as planned. While this can be an outlier, it is not an impossibility. If an opportunity suddenly pops up, are you still staying Mestre?
3. If it is clear at VCE that you would not make a train, ask a taxi how much the driver wants for taking you to Sacile. If he quotes a fixed price less than ATVO bus to Mestre+overnight stay+breakfast cost+train from Mestre-Sacile, would you take a taxi? You lose less than a minute if the driver quotes a fixed price not acceptable to you. For this to work, you need to have a good estimate of sum of all the costs you would incur by going to Mestre and staying overnight.
1. When you are ready to leave VCE, if it is clear that you would miss the train. Find a pre-selected hotel meeting your budget and requirements.
2. If the plane arrives early and you get out of VCE quickly. Zip to to Mestre station and catch the last train to Sacile as planned. While this can be an outlier, it is not an impossibility. If an opportunity suddenly pops up, are you still staying Mestre?
3. If it is clear at VCE that you would not make a train, ask a taxi how much the driver wants for taking you to Sacile. If he quotes a fixed price less than ATVO bus to Mestre+overnight stay+breakfast cost+train from Mestre-Sacile, would you take a taxi? You lose less than a minute if the driver quotes a fixed price not acceptable to you. For this to work, you need to have a good estimate of sum of all the costs you would incur by going to Mestre and staying overnight.
